2020-07-16 GnuCash IRC logs
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07:28:55 <chris> warlord/jralls: https://github.com/kurkle/chartjs-chart-sankey#read looks good... MIT licence too. on top of chartJS upgrade to 3.0.0 (still in beta).
07:50:27 <warlord> chris, cool
07:54:34 <chris> it's cutting edge.... and https://github.com/chartjs/Chart.js/commits/master he is also active in chartjs development, so, we can ask permission to bundle it too
07:54:54 <chris> would be a good 'cash-flow' type report ^_^
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08:11:25 <warlord> Indeed.
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09:32:03 <chris> and the dataformat isn't difficult too: it's a json list of { from:"A", to:"B", flow:NUMBER } triads
09:32:39 <chris> { from:"Income:Salary", to:"Asset:Bank", flow:1000 }
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11:56:40 <chris> I think I'll have a basic sankey chart this weekend :)
11:57:03 <chris> Income:Freelance -> Income -> ASSETS -> Expense -> Expense:Level1 -> Expense:Level1:Level2
11:58:30 <chris> It'll be like cash-flow.scm on steroids
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12:00:52 <chris> maybe I'll tag CDB-Work to give me some professional criticism too :)
12:01:49 <chris> My next trick: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/b5t5sp/oc_a_sankey_diagram_showing_how_i_spent_my_money/
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12:13:13 <CDB-Work> chris: ooh
12:13:17 <CDB-Work> this is nice
12:13:37 <CDB-Work> this is pretty useful for a P&L analysis
12:13:47 <CDB-Work> but i think where it really shines is as a cash flow report
12:14:00 <CDB-Work> both really, would be excellent
12:14:16 <CDB-Work> cash flow is always traditionally the hardest financial statement
12:14:33 <CDB-Work> both in terms of complexity, and in terms of difficulty to actually prepare it
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12:18:43 <dhanadhyag> Hello, I am getting an error while using GNUcash. is anybody here for support?
12:19:10 <CDB-Work> post the actual question (rather than asking if you can ask a question...) and someone will get back to you
12:19:18 <dhanadhyag> Okay
12:23:03 <dhanadhyag> I recently switched over from Windows 10 to PureOS. In hurry, I just took latest .gnucash and .log file for back. I got it setup in PureOS and every transaction is there. But in one of my account of bank, when I enter a transaction in withdrawal it duplicates same but in deposit. Same happens visa-versa. Please assist me in this matter.
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12:41:42 <CDB-Work> yeah, I dont know the answer to that, so you'll need to wait for someone else to reply. I would also check that all of your settings in preferences are the same as when you had it on windows 10
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13:19:11 <jralls> chris, re: guile-3 on Windows: Sure, when I have a week to burn getting it to build.
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13:27:57 <jralls> fell: I didn't update Template:FallbackVersion on purpose. 2.6.21 is the last release that will run on a PPC Mac.
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13:56:13 <fell> Oh, then we are using Fallback in 2 different meanings. 1. prev. main, 2. frozen something.
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13:58:28 <jralls> fell: Not AFAICT. Only the MacOS PPC points to it. That said we do need another one for MacOS 10.9-10.12 because 4.0 requires 10.13 or later.
14:00:30 <jralls> We might want to do something similar for Windows, saying which version was the last we tested for XP (2.4.something?) and that 3.11 is the last one tested for Win7.
14:02:03 <fell> Do we really want to mirror https://www.gnucash.org/download.phtml#historical in the wiki?
14:02:46 <fell> IMHO static info is better kept on www.
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14:04:29 <jralls> OK, that's reasonable. PPC is ancient now anyway, so let's remove all of the historical stuff. Maybe rename FallbackVersion to OldStableVersion as well.
14:06:16 <fell> PreviousStableVersion might be more clear.
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14:20:47 <jralls> "old stable" is the conventional name for the stable version before the currently maintained one, but either is clearer than fallback. I have no strong attachment to either.
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16:58:55 <jralls> fell, I'm ready to do something about https://code.gnucash.org/logs/2020/07/07.html#T15:42:30.
17:00:15 <jralls> How about "Manange xxx Document Association", xxx being Business or Transaction?
17:01:08 <jralls> Or do maybe ...Associated Document and lose the xxx?
17:03:06 <jralls> And "_Manage Associated Document..." for the various menu items.
17:04:23 <jralls> While changing Actions>Jump to Actions>Jump to other account and Transaction>Open Associated Invoice to Jump to Invoice.
17:07:19 <fell> jralls, while I try to imagine it, you can review https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Template:Macos_Downloads
17:09:04 <frakturfreak> Can you assign external documents to transactions created by the business module now without messing with their read-onlyness? Or does “Manage Business Document Association“ just mean changing the associated generated invoice?
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17:13:03 <jralls> fell, looks good. I made a small grammar change and added Github as a download site.
17:13:20 <fell> I hope trying it did not crash frakturfreak's computer. ;-)
17:13:59 <jralls> I hope his network connection isn't as flakey as warlord's and mine have been lately.
17:15:30 <fell> I have to look, what one would see in an AR/AP register. Never tried to associate there…
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17:19:01 <jralls> One probably shouldn't. Associate from the income/expense register.
17:19:36 <jralls> But that's different from associating a doc on the business object itself.
17:36:41 <fell> In G/L I saw in both splits "Open associated <B-O>" and "Update|Open|Remove Association for transaction"
17:37:11 <jralls> @tell frakturefreak No, you can't add change a read-only transaction. What you can do now is associate a document directly with an invoice, bill, or voucher.
17:37:11 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
17:39:49 <fell> or distinguish between "Internal|External Document"?
17:39:54 <jralls> fell, that's the way it is now, except I think that <B-O> is always "Invoice" regardless of what's at the other end. I'm proposing to change that to "Jump to Invoice" in light of gjanssens's comments from last week.
17:42:38 <jralls> Otherwise replace all instances of "Update Association for xxx" with "_Manage Associated Document...", "Open Association for xxx" with "_Open Associated Document" and remove "Remove Association for xxx" because there's a button to do that on the "Manage Association" dialog.
17:43:00 <fell> Hm <B-O>s have no management,
17:43:28 <fell> We have jump (to counter account),
17:44:01 <fell> Perhaps "Show <B-O>"
17:44:29 <fell> "Open Document"
17:45:23 <jralls> Right, which I'm renaming "Jump to other account". And I think "Open Document" is a bit too terse and maybe ambiguous.
17:46:48 <jralls> gjanssens's thought was that "open" implied something outside of GnuCash or perhaps a different data file while "Jump" is well associated with opening a new tab showing a different GnuCash object.
17:46:50 <fell> Open associated document
17:47:35 <fell> Manage association
17:47:49 <jralls> That's what I've got except every word capitalized, consistent with the other menu items.
17:48:25 <fell> OK
17:49:02 <jralls> English and German have quite different capitalization conventions. ;-)
17:50:31 <warlord> LOL. It actually wasn't my network; it was my tunnel-provider's router.
17:51:14 <jralls> It's not my network that keeps me popping in and out either, it's Comcrap's.
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19:07:45 <jralls> fell, https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/758
19:26:22 <fell> jralls, for now only 2 HIG issues. I will have to create a pot later.
19:27:02 <jralls> fell, on the ellipsis, don't you want to do that as a global change?
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20:20:40 <chris> jralls: I thought all guile-3 needs is to change a config file on the windows toolchain
20:21:53 <jralls> Hah! No. Guile never builds cleanly on Windows, plus every attempt takes hours. That's why I make a pacman package once I do get it to build and work.
20:22:53 <jralls> I wasn't even being sarcastic about it taking a week: That's how long it took me to get 2.2.7 built last spring.
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