2025-06-03 GnuCash IRC logs

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13:26:21 <jralls> warlord FYI I'm also seeing poor performance from code. It took 2 minutes to load a wiki page just now, I got a gateway timeout after 2 minutes trying to get to the bugzilla search page.
13:26:54 <jralls> warlord, traceroute time to code is 107 ms.
13:28:23 <warlord> 13:28:12 up 1 day, 4 min, 1 user, load average: 154.56, 155.23, 141.85
13:31:38 <warlord> Looks like the system is being bombarded with wiki requests.
13:34:45 <warlord> Like: [03/Jun/2025:13:32:47 -0400] 14.120.172.37 TLSv1.3 TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 "GET /wiki/index.php?days=3&from=20250515033436&hideliu=1&printable=yes&target=Category%3AReleases&title=Special%3ARecentChangesLinked HTTP/1.1" 5163
13:39:24 <warlord> I've shut down HTTP for now.
13:53:03 <warlord> Part of me is considering turning off all mediawiki
13:53:07 <warlord> (robots.txt)
14:01:07 <jralls> Unfortunately the wiki is probably being looted by an AI crawler. I've seen lots of reports that those crawlers ignore robots.txt. Gnome has implemented https://xeiaso.net/blog/2025/anubis/. Maybe we should too.
14:09:11 <warlord> Implementing that sounds great, but won't easily work with the current implementation on code.
14:09:32 <warlord> (there is no "reverse proxy" to put anubis in front of, per se)
14:10:18 <jralls> That's unfortunate.
14:15:17 <warlord> I take it back -- it would be possible, but it would still be a major reconfiguration.
14:22:35 <jralls> Maybe there's something else similar that would fit your config better. "ai scraper blocking tool" turns up lots of hits. The first page is mostly about Cloudflare's blocker There are some more general articles on the second.
14:23:06 <jralls> Or you could ask your favorite LLM. ;-)
14:23:30 <warlord> Or I can just keep the wiki off for a while... :)
14:24:12 <warlord> (longer term, perhaps I should migrate the wiki to its own VM)
14:52:26 <jralls> I don't think keeping the wiki offline is a viable solution. It's a really important documentation resource. A separate VM wouldn't help the wiki's performance though it might help protect the other VMs from being bogged down.
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15:08:01 <jralls> fell I don't see the todo in the doc release page that I opened before warlord shut off the wiki. What is it?
15:09:38 <warlord> jralls, I know, I was joking about keeping it down.
15:09:50 <warlord> It's back up now...
15:10:03 <warlord> The separate VM would keep wiki overload from affecting other services.
15:11:25 <jralls> That's probably a good idea on its own. Last I heard from you the wiki was the largest consumer without help from AI crawlers.
15:11:39 <warlord> Pretty much, yeah.
15:31:34 <jralls> fell nvm found it in the diff.
16:49:16 <jralls> Well, it was nice to have things responsive for a little while. Unfortunately we're back to timeouts.
16:53:42 <jralls> fell, I got the htdocs-docs section done but my MacOSX/Quartz changes are stranded by the timeouts.
17:07:39 <warlord> jralls, they just keep pounding. I could set a restart every hour>
17:17:25 <warlord> jralls, load average is still low right now...
17:32:18 <jralls> warlord, Yay, thanks, I got my MacOSX/Quartz changes through.
17:33:08 <warlord> Great!
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