2023-05-04 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:54:14 <Rogach> Hi! Question for developers: how can I build and run GnuCash without reinstalling it entirely?
00:54:32 <Rogach> Previously I've just ran it via ./bin/gnucash, but that doesn't work anymore.
00:55:03 <Rogach> I tried to do `make install` with a custom DESTDIR, but then I had to mess with LD_LIBRARY_PATH and GUILE_LOAD_PATH, and it starts, but quickly segfaults.
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07:32:14 <warlord> .
09:06:05 <Rogach> Hi! Question for developers: how can I build and run GnuCash without reinstalling it entirely?
09:06:09 <Rogach> Previously I've just ran it via ./bin/gnucash, but that doesn't work anymore.
09:06:14 <Rogach> I tried to do `make install` with a custom DESTDIR, but then I had to mess with LD_LIBRARY_PATH and GUILE_LOAD_PATH, and it starts, but quickly segfaults.
09:25:04 <warlord> Rogach, I... don't think you can.
09:25:22 <warlord> But jralls or gjanssens might be able to answer more accurately.
09:25:43 <Rogach> So each developer simply re-installs the whole package when wants to test a small tweak?
09:27:28 <warlord> Pretty much, yeah. I used to build with --prefix=/opt/gnucash and then I could run /opt/gnucash/bin/gnucash
09:27:49 <gjanssens> Rogach: no. I have been running gnucash straight from the build directory for years
09:28:07 <gjanssens> I don't think you have to install it.
09:28:29 <gjanssens> However I'll note it's also been years since I have tried "make". I have been using "ninja" as build tool.
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09:29:05 <gjanssens> Perhaps we have a regression in the make configuration (though I'd expect that to cause the build to fail rather than a failure to run)
09:29:26 <gjanssens> It would help to know exactly what errors you get
09:29:56 <Rogach> I'll re-run the build now and report back.
09:30:44 <Rogach> It was actually my understanding that `make`in gnucash somehow runs `ninja` under the hood, because the output is not very similar to usual make output.
09:31:18 <gjanssens> :)
09:32:22 <gjanssens> The output of "make" is largely defined by the Makefiles that are being generated. Before I believe GnuCash 4, we used autotools to generate these Makefiles.
09:32:52 <gjanssens> Since then we have switched to cmake to generate either Makefiles or a build configuration suitable for ninja.
09:33:26 <gjanssens> These cmake generated Makefiles are organized quite differently from the ones generated by autotools. Hence the different output.
09:33:45 <gjanssens> But it really is make in your case and not ninja that orchestrates the build.
09:34:36 <gjanssens> I'm probably unavailable for the coming hours. Feel free to post your errors here or on the mailing lists though.
09:34:44 <gjanssens> Someone will respond at some point.
09:36:36 <Rogach> I have to deeply apologize :( I was using cmake flags from Arch Linux build definition (`-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR=/usr/lib -DWITH_PYTHON=ON -DCOMPILE_GSCHEMAS=OFF`), and when I compiled with them there were problems.
09:36:50 <Rogach> Only now I had the epiphany of compiling without all those flags, and now it works.
09:36:58 <Rogach> My apologies for wasting your time =(
09:37:11 <gjanssens> No problem. Happy you got it fixed :)
09:37:30 <Rogach> Thank you!
09:38:20 <Rogach> Btw, regarding the mailing list - I posted an email to gnucash-devel several days ago, it said that it would be queued for the moderation, and never got through.
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13:56:31 <jralls> Rogach -DCOMPILE_GSCHEMAS=OFF would be the killer. That's appropriate for building a package (apt/rpm/pacman) because the package manager will run the gschema compiler as part of installing the package. It doesn't work for a stand-alone build unless you do it by hand afterwards.
14:01:00 <jralls> Rogach You have to subscribe to the list in order to post. Visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel and fill out the form under "Subscribing to gnucash-devel".
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19:25:07 <Rogach> jralls: I don't see Arch Linux running schema compiler: https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-community/blob/packages/gnucash/trunk/PKGBUILD#L42
19:25:18 <Rogach> Perhaps that happens when it does `make check`?
19:25:33 <Rogach> Or `make install`?
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