2023-03-17 GnuCash IRC logs

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02:57:38 <foxnest> When you go to the gnucash.org site it shows an apache website page not the GNUcash page and trying to use ssl there gives an ssl error
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07:23:33 <fell> foxnest: use code.gnucash.org/website nstead.
08:37:31 <warlord> foxnest, go to https://www.gnucash.org --- but even then, it is out of date.
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13:32:38 <jralls> warlord, I guess you missed https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798784.
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14:05:06 <warlord> Nothing I can do about that -- That's a Linas thing.
14:29:35 <jralls> warlord, I know. But it means you can't send users to www.gnucash.org.
14:31:22 <warlord> ah. yeah, i missed that bug before
14:36:14 <Simon> I don't understand how we know "Linas lost internet access" but he won't just let you run DNS?
14:37:28 <jralls> I don't know what's going on with linas. He's been very selective and very sporadic in communicating.
14:38:02 <Simon> how did the DNSSEC signatures get refreshed?
14:38:17 <Simon> an earlier comment says they were going to expire on the 6th
14:38:23 <Simon> but they now expire on the 29th
14:40:09 <warlord> Some of Linas' infra may still be working?
14:42:19 <jralls> Probably most of it. He's using LE for the www cert and it was issued 11 December, about the time that he broke the knocker. It's not hard to imagine that he also broke the LE refresh script.
14:42:31 <Simon> "GRANDECOM-GPON-AUSTIN-STATIC" (67.198.37.16 and 67.198.37.17) is up
14:45:11 <jralls> https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-00822 says that Bind 9.7.2 and later can automatically re-sign DNS zones so maybe he got that set up in December.
14:45:18 <Simon> someone is squatting on "gnu.cash" but it's "only" $600
14:46:25 <jralls> Cheaper than gnucash.com, that squatter wanted $1330 when I checked a few weeks ago. Somebody's got gnucash.net too, they wanted less but I don't remember the number.
14:46:48 * Simon checks how much .cash costs to renew
14:46:51 <jralls> There's bunches of other gnucash.xxx that are available though. I suggested gnucash.info.
14:47:03 <Simon> (all the new tlds cost far too much)
14:47:50 <Simon> $34.50/yr... not too bad but that's 3x .org
14:48:36 <Simon> .com and .net have clearly decided they want to be using new tld prices
14:49:16 <Simon> .app is $19.50/yr and not a bad option
14:49:37 <Simon> .info just looks like the name was taken in a good tld...
14:50:15 <Simon> yikes
14:50:25 <Simon> gnucash.com is showing as available to buy at $6k
14:50:47 <Simon> (and gnu.cash at $600)
14:58:32 <jralls> I like .app better than .info too so I just registered it. warlord, where should I point it?
15:07:07 <Simon> let me know if you want more secondary nameservers
15:09:19 <jralls> This will sound radical but maybe we should use the domain registrar's DNS. That way we can set up multiple accounts that can manage it and not get into this one-person failure mode again.
15:11:37 <Simon> ugh GoDaddy
15:12:06 <Simon> I wouldn't use a registrar's DNS, it makes you too dependent on them
15:12:10 <warlord> jralls, good question.
15:13:16 <jralls> Better to be dependent on a large company who does this stuff as their primary business--even GoDaddy--than a single person who can flake out or get incapacitated.
16:03:52 <foxnest> I run a hosting company and I have noticed that you have to pay attention to the renewal cost, many are higher than the registration fee
16:04:28 <Simon> fairly sure renewal is the same as registration for .app
16:05:39 <jralls> GoDaddy is nicely transparent about that. It was $17 for the first year and $21 for subsequent years as long as you bought more than one year.
16:07:01 <jralls> All clearly displayed on the offer page.
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18:19:44 <blr> My first pull request has been approved!
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18:35:27 <jralls> blr, congrats and I hope there will be many more to follow!
18:37:21 <blr> I'm planning for that to be the case. Working on my next bug report now.
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19:37:42 <warlord> Congrats blr !!
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22:21:41 <chris> good jbo blr
22:22:33 <chris> good job blr