2023-02-05 GnuCash IRC logs
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12:59:58 <gjanssens> jralls: I presume you are busy building your tar balls ? That is, I guess you would prefer to hold back further pushes to master until you're ready with the releases ?
13:39:20 <jralls> gjanssens, I've completed the checks so I can push now. Just a minute...
13:40:31 <jralls> gjanssens, pushed. Go ahead.
13:52:33 <gjanssens> Ok, whenever I'm done for the night :)
13:53:03 * gjanssens is playing with C99 bool and declare-after-statement fixes in import-matcher.c
13:53:17 <gjanssens> So much easier on the eyes...
13:53:59 <jralls> *so much* easier!
13:54:11 <gjanssens> C++ is ever nicer, but I can't do it all at once :)
13:54:24 <jralls> That would be Herculean.
13:54:59 <jralls> Even most of the files that we've changed to compile as C++ aren
13:55:11 <jralls> aren't really C++.
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13:57:47 <gjanssens> I know...
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16:54:08 <gjanssens> I'll have to defer my new changes on master - last edits result in a segfault... Will be later this week.
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18:05:23 <NathanF> I need help with FQ. After I ran an update on LM20 a couple months ago, FQ quit working. I have gnucash version 4.8 flathub build 4.8-1, FQ v 1.49
18:06:13 <NathanF> I read some documentation on how to troubleshoot but I am a noob with terminal. I need the correct path or syntax to run the gnc-fq-xxxx scripts.
18:33:15 <jralls> Nathan, see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Using_Command_Line_Tools.
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18:40:31 <NathanF> so that helped thank you. I ran gnc-fq-check and it showed a long list of quote sources but no error messages
18:41:03 <NathanF> next I ran gnucash --log gnc.scm=debug
18:43:05 <NathanF> the prog loaded normally and the log output in terminal showed a long list of "note: source file xxxx is new than compiled xxxx"
18:43:43 <NathanF> at the end it said "Found Finance::Quote version 1.49.
18:43:44 <NathanF> ;;; note: source file /app/share/guile/site/2.2/gnucash/app-utils/fin.scm
18:43:44 <NathanF> ;;; newer than compiled /app/lib/guile/2.2/site-ccache/gnucash/app-utils/fin.go
18:49:46 <NathanF> I am thinking maybe I need to run gnc-fq-update
19:04:18 <jralls> NathanF IIRC you can't do that in a Flatpak. You can update to GnuCash 4.13 that has the latest F::Q release.
19:06:22 <NathanF> well I really dont know what I am doing anwyay. I only want the feature to work and I have been increasingly frustrated getting help. It took me over an hour to figure out how long into this channel just to ask for help.
19:07:47 <jralls> The best way to get help is to subscribe the the user mailing list. See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists
19:13:14 <NathanF> well I ran gnc-fq-update
19:15:20 <jralls> Did it do anything?
19:18:44 <NathanF> https://www.imgpaste.net/image/KBkaF7
19:20:14 <NathanF> it is still running, in a loop
19:23:29 <NathanF> not sure if this next screenshot is an error, https://www.imgpaste.net/image/KBk6O3 but the next one I send you sure is.
19:23:37 <jralls> Like I said, it doesn't work in the flatpak. Try upgrading to GnuCash 4.13.
19:23:41 <jralls> I've got to go now.
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19:25:49 <NathanF> ok well I hope I dont screw up my machine by just closing terminal and killing the process. I am so fed up with the complexity of linux and lack of help that I am ready to go back to windows.
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19:26:29 <NoobAlice> You can probably hit Ctrl+C to stop what it is doing right now.
19:26:37 <NoobAlice> NathanF: Just in case you didn't notice it, in the GnuCash Flatpak command line link jralls sent, it says "However, gnc-fq-update does not work." :(
19:27:26 <NathanF> thanks, yeah I forgot I did read that
19:28:18 <NoobAlice> I have to admit I don't touch Flatpak at all. It seems too complicated for me. If you want advice on how to update it, you could ask the Linux Mint community or the GnuCash mailing list.
19:28:34 <NathanF> I really dont like using terminal.
19:29:11 <NathanF> I would rather not have the flatpak version.
19:30:19 <NoobAlice> Linux Mint probably has non-Flatpack, just normal package, version of GnuCash in its repositories. But I don't know what version it has. Mint and other similar distros usually are behind on versions.
19:31:28 <NoobAlice> Or maybe you will need to find a PPA... just a sec and I will try to find one for you.
19:38:08 <NathanF> I decided just to download v4.13 from sourceforge
19:38:24 <NoobAlice> ...a Flatpak or a normal package?
19:40:36 <NathanF> I dont see flatpak anywhere on the download page https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/files/gnucash%20%28stable%29/
19:41:15 <NathanF> do you think I should stick with flatpak since I have that already?
19:41:24 <NathanF> I have not installed the download yet
19:41:34 <NoobAlice> Okay. I do not think you should install directly from what you can get on SourceForge. What you get there are source packages, and you will need to install dependencies and use a lot of command line stuff to use them.
19:41:46 <NoobAlice> I think you should try to update the FlatPak instead.
19:41:55 <NathanF> ok
19:42:25 <NoobAlice> I don't use FlatPak, but here are instructions I found online: https://itsfoss.com/update-flatpak/
19:46:08 <NathanF> one sec
19:47:09 <NathanF> https://www.imgpaste.net/image/KBkBMU
19:51:26 <NoobAlice> According to the guide, press "Y" and then "Enter"
19:51:42 <NathanF> I dont know if I should upgrade those several other programs mentioned in this screenshot
19:52:42 <NathanF> is this going to upgrade my Gnucash version? or is it going to do an upgrade for flatpak? sorry I am a dunce.
20:00:07 <NoobAlice> It's going to update the Flatpak packages in the list. You could try updating just the one that is org.gnucash.GnuCash . I see that one on Flathub: https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnucash.GnuCash
20:00:56 <NoobAlice> I'm not sure what the other gnucash locale package is. Those ones that say Mint-Y-Dark... are color themes. I'm not sure why you have those installed as Flatpaks.
20:03:53 <NoobAlice> Also, next time you want to show someone what you are seeing in the terminal, you can copy the text from terminal, then paste it somewhere like here to get a link to share: https://bpa.st/
20:05:13 <NoobAlice> Instead of terminal commands, it says in that article that Linux Mint should let you do updates through your software center where you do other updates.
20:11:41 <NoobAlice> Sorry, I also haven't used Linux Mint in years since I changed to a different distro. I don't know how it does things these days.
20:18:10 <NathanF> ok. thanks for the tips. I had checked the software center for lm and it only had up to my current version available from flathub.
20:18:28 <NoobAlice> Okay.
20:19:33 <NoobAlice> I have to go now. If you have questions about dealing with Flatpak upgrades, I think you should ask Linux Mint people in their forums or their IRC. If you have questions about using GnuCash, the mailing lists are a good bet. Good luck with everything! Remember to always backup your important files! :)
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