2022-09-25 GnuCash IRC logs
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15:39:04 *** jralls_afk changes topic to "Free GPL Personal and Small Business Accounting || Moderated mode: To get a voice, register with NickServ and then re-join. || Please don't ask to ask, just ask and wait! (Possibly a few hours!!) || publicly-logged channel https://code.gnucash.org/logs || latest stable: 4.12 || www.gnucash.org || wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/"
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15:51:34 <jralls> fell, I had a look at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation_Status because the Release Process page said to. It doesn't say anything about weblate. Shouldn't it, instead of pointing translators at git?
15:53:30 <fell> Oh ha, that old thing from subversion days? I had almost never looked at it.
16:00:52 <fell> Its purpose is to switch to the Beta branch 'unstable' before a new main release—something we have to do on weblate.
16:03:46 <fell> I assume we should do it in the 4.13 releease process.
16:05:44 <fell> The Betas will be released monthly?
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16:07:57 <chf> Es ist schon wieder ruhig geworden um die Vorschläge zu eventuellen neuen Kontentypen. Wie unmittelbar steht Version 5 bevor, um das da noch reinzukriegen?
16:09:10 <chf> Warum erkennt das hiesige Nickserv die pidginsche Automatik-Anmeldung schon seit Monden nicht mehr?
16:21:22 <fell> chf: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule
16:22:40 <fell> zu Pidgin kann ich nichts sagen. Gab es da zu der Zeit ein Update auf deinem PC?
16:26:46 <fell> Zu "Passiva" hast du meine volle Unterstützung, aber für irgendwelche Sammelsurien Kontentypen zu definieren scheint mir höchst fraglich und bei der Suchenach einer freundlichen Formulierung dafür kam mir wieder was anderes dazwischen.
16:27:40 <chf> Nö, ewig keine mehr gemacht, kann natürlich nicht für alle eventuell genutzten Bibliotheken sprechen.
16:29:26 <chf> Ja, aber „Aktiva“ sind offenbar auch de facto nur falsch zugeordnet, also eher „zufällig dem Namen nach vorhanden“, als korrekt übersetzt.
16:33:10 <chf> Weiterhin scheint es mir unumgänglich, $IRGENDWAS zu haben, das als Haupt-Typ für diese „Sammelsurien“ tauglich ist, ohne Einschränkungen zu machen, was da drunter vorkommen kann. Sind das wirklich alles Passiva oder wird da was „artfremdes“ sozusagen „reingemogelt“. Dazu hätte ich mal gerne eine Buchhalter-Meinung oder was ähnliches.
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16:35:41 <chf> Weiterhin frage ich mich, warum man ausgerechnet da so restriktiv sein soll, wo doch „irrelevanter Kleinkram“ wie Kreditkarten schon eigene Typen haben.
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17:13:34 <fell> Weil der irrellevante Kram eigene Vorschlagslisten für das Aktion-Feld hat: Dividenden gibt es nur bei Aktien, …
17:16:16 <jralls> fell, I put the beta release schedule on https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule. Should I delete https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation_Status and remove the reference from the Process page or do you want to update it to reflect weblate?
17:18:22 <fell> Die numerische Systematik "Klasse 9" ist nicht immer 1:1 abbildbar auf die Kontentypen-Hierarchie.
17:19:35 <fell> jralls: from my POV Translation_Status can go together with links into it.
17:24:25 <fell> Klasse 9 ist eigentlich Passiva, aber weil 9 die letzte dezimale Ziffer ist, wurde da noch alles, was gemäß HGB nicht erforderlich ist, aber irgendwie nützlich, von DATEv reingequetscht.
17:54:34 <jralls> fell, done. There were a lot of references and Avi had even done a partial translation of it.
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18:14:02 <glorberto> Looks like a friend has a chase bank account, but doesn't have online banking for ofx extraction
18:14:04 <glorberto> this is gonna be interesting
18:14:19 <glorberto> does anyone know how to split an ofx into its constituent accounts and dates?
18:29:40 <fell> Thanks, jralls!
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19:54:41 <glorberto> Also, what do you guys do when multiple businesses are run out of one account? I guess I can just make accounts for each
19:55:01 <glorberto> double-entry makes so much more sense than any other system, i feel like
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21:15:39 <fell> warlord, the wiki is slow …
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23:14:15 <glorberto> looks like my bank exports transactions without the full line. cute. and then in ofx format, it's truncated
23:14:18 <glorberto> but in csv, it's seemingly not?
23:14:29 <glorberto> and the memo's just straight up missing
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23:39:33 <chris> jralls: on master: https://pastebin.com/raw/srw4rEQf
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