2022-09-12 GnuCash IRC logs

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00:33:25 <chris> if fell is happy about #1431 I'll merge in
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00:40:44 <fell> Chris: appoved.
00:40:56 <fell> approved
00:42:36 <chris> fell as it turns out I have more comments in that PR...
00:42:52 <fell> NP
00:44:19 <chris> only because it's useful to share the pain of the workload in creating good UI ;)
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02:23:57 <CDB-Man> [2022.09.12 00:33:25] <chris> if fell is happy about #1431 I'll merge in <-- well, I've added more to think about in the PR
02:24:14 <CDB-Man> in response to your comments
02:24:52 * CDB-Man is pleasantly surprised he's about to fiddle his way around github to be able to contribute basics like this
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06:10:58 <ravinda> I have a party, ABC, who is a vendor for one product and a customer for another.
06:11:02 <ravinda> I created two accounts; one as Payable and one as Receivable.
06:11:07 <ravinda> How can I check if I have to see the net amount of these two accounts?
06:11:11 <ravinda> I tried Balance Sheet by filtering only these two accounts and i thought I can get it in Retained Earnings, but it is not showing. At present, I am calculating manually.
06:11:18 <ravinda> If there is a facility it will be useful to know the net balance of a party which is both receivable and payable.
06:11:23 <ravinda> You can derive the net balance using Transaction Report but it would be a lengthy report.
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07:11:46 <ravinda> I have a party, ABC, who is a vendor for one product and a customer for another.
07:11:46 <ravinda> I created two accounts; one as Payable and one as Receivable.
07:11:46 <ravinda> How can I check if I have to see the net amount of these two accounts?
07:11:46 <ravinda> I tried Balance Sheet by filtering only these two accounts and i thought I can get it in Retained Earnings, but it is not showing. At present, I am calculating manually.
07:11:46 <ravinda> If there is a facility it will be useful to know the net balance of a party which is both receivable and payable.
07:11:46 <ravinda> You can derive the net balance using Transaction Report but it would be a lengthy report.
07:51:46 <warlord> ravinda, unfortunately gnucash does not have a good internal method to handle a single entity as both customer and vendor. Then best option you have is to print a customer report and vendor report and then manually merge them.
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07:54:34 <ravinda> By merge you mean, manually calculate?
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08:00:53 <warlord> yes
08:01:09 <warlord> Pull it into a spreadsheet or other document
08:04:18 <ravinda> Thank you
08:04:28 <ravinda> That is my current practice :)
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13:41:53 <chris> CDB-Man would be good to get some authoritative (ie .gov or .edu) about cash-in-lieu being considered a sale (which should trigger capgains) https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/income/investments/cash-in-lieu/
13:42:43 <CDB-Man> chris: it depends on jurisdiction
13:42:57 <chris> https://www.fool.com/knowledge-center/how-to-report-cash-in-lieu-on-schedule-d.aspx
13:43:11 <CDB-Man> Schedule D is the USA capital gains form
13:43:30 <CDB-Man> From an IFRS perspective it's a sale
13:44:01 <chris> ^ if so, the current stock split assistant is incomplete !
13:44:22 <CDB-Man> 1099 B is the USA tax slip for a capital gain transaction
13:44:42 <CDB-Man> I'm quite confident the tool you're designing is superior
13:45:01 <CDB-Man> And I don't know enough about the existing tool to vouch for its accuracy
13:45:33 <CDB-Man> The ONLY reason in my mind to bend the new tool towards the old tool... Is "We've always done it this way"
13:45:42 <CDB-Man> Which is a poor reason
13:45:45 <chris> a glossary would be useful - there's lots of varying vocabulary around - redemption, buyback, split, spinoff
13:46:32 <CDB-Man> IMO a glossary is better written by someone not informed, then have someone informed review it after. This way it is written in plain language as a starting point
13:46:32 <chris> ^ glossary doesn't belong in IRC. it can be in the .cpp comments itself until ready to graduate to documentation.
13:47:02 <CDB-Man> Like how I edited the original text that you first drafted
13:47:35 * chris woefully aware the text initially written is playtext
13:47:49 <chris> gtg soon late in GMT+8
13:47:51 <CDB-Man> : D
13:49:36 <chris> it may be fun to describe the inadequacy of the stock split assistant in the mailing list and watch the numerous arguments arise
13:50:35 <chris> ravinda: if the ABC entity is both a customer and vendor, they're (in gnucash) separate business objects and cannot be linked into 1 report
13:51:11 <chris> ravinda: if you've some consistency in your Transaction Descriptions you can use Transaction Report on AP&AR and filter the Description
13:51:24 <chris> off now
13:55:33 <CDB-Man> Chris: I don't equate mass hysteria with fun!
13:55:44 <CDB-Man> As entertaining as it may be
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