2022-08-19 GnuCash IRC logs

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09:04:12 <gjanssens> .
09:04:12 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 19 hours and 44 minutes ago: <jralls> Plus it was Wednesday so I was off building houses all day. There's no problem with your changes per se, they're just a big change to the master docs that might cause conflicts when merging up maint. Merging them into master and having CWehli's extensive changes go to master after them would prevent that.
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09:51:43 <chris> Here's a fun OFX bug - if an ofx string has &copy; it won't process it :)
09:52:02 <chris> /tmp/libofxtmpVwCtmO:48:26:W: cannot generate system identifier for general entity "copy"
09:52:10 <chris> /tmp/libofxtmpVwCtmO:48:26:E: general entity "copy" not defined and no default entity
09:52:12 <chris> etc
09:54:09 <chris> A GtkTooltip must be g_markup_escape_text'd to be shown properly
09:54:48 <chris> this is demonstrated in maint^1 commit
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10:03:12 <chris> fell this format is just a harmeless non-bug warning
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10:21:45 <fell> Chris, I posted it just in case you hadn't seen it.
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12:14:54 <gjanssens> jralls_afk: I imagined that was the general idea behind your suggestion.
12:15:21 <gjanssens> Out of curiosity I tried both approaches locally on my machine:
12:15:54 <gjanssens> 1. merge CWehli's PR's in maint, merge my PR in master and then merge new maint into new master
12:16:15 <gjanssens> 2. merge my PR in master and rebase CWehli's PR's onto new master
12:17:07 <gjanssens> There are currently 4 open PRs. I skipped PR#255 (the one that backports all work on the German documentation to C locale) because it already had merge conflicts on maint I didn't know how to resolve properly.
12:17:20 <gjanssens> With the others the results were interesting
12:24:18 <gjanssens> Method 1. runs into several merge conflicts in my CMakeLists.txt changes. All of them were obvious to resolve for me, but may not be for CWehli. That's quite normal as the conflicts are between my cmake_figures work on maint and my xdghelp work on master
12:25:01 <gjanssens> I ran into the exact same merge conflicts if I merge current maint into master-with-xdghelp-changes.
12:25:48 <gjanssens> 2. In this scenario I temporarily avoid my merge conflicts because I did not merge my cmake-figures work into master yet.
12:26:13 <gjanssens> I do get one merge conflict from CWehli's work though which I didn't get in methode 1.
12:28:09 <gjanssens> I suspect this is because in case of a rebase, git can't consult commit history to track file renames.
12:30:45 <gjanssens> If I continue on the 1. alternative test (ie, first merge current maint into master-with-xdghelp-work), continue with a merge of CWehli's PRs on current maint and then merge that new maint into master, there are no merge conflicts at all in the CWehli's PR merges
12:31:05 <gjanssens> So bottom line I think is to avoid rebasing in case of invasive changes.
12:32:05 <gjanssens> In in this particular case, it would be best if I merge the xdg work into master first and then immediately merge maint into master to resolve the merge conflicts my cmake-figures work introduced.
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12:33:22 <gjanssens> I was more or less waiting for linas to solve the beta website deadlock, but that's not strictly necessary. My xdg work will only affect the website once 5.x gets released so we still have time to sort the website bits out.
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12:54:36 <jralls> gjanssens, I guess you have more time than you thought! ;-)
12:58:32 <jralls> My take on CWheli's work is that it's a major rewrite and should probably go directly to master. As I said earlier it doesn't make a lot of sense to publish a major rewrite 2 revisions before the end of a series.
12:58:45 <gjanssens> jralls: it's all inbetween and in small bits at the time :)
12:59:35 <jralls> Pretty standard for hobby work, eh? How's the IRL stuff going? Is the new house done?
13:00:13 <gjanssens> And I do agree to that motivation. The merge conflicts he would run in to when rebasing on master should be obvious for him (with the help of a good merge tool they were even for me)
13:00:28 <gjanssens> IRL is still incredibly busy.
13:01:29 <gjanssens> We are still in the planning phase of our new house. The town hall continues to make objections. But we're making progress.
13:02:02 <gjanssens> Meanwhile we almost finished a fairly big renovation on the current house (and shop). This took about a year and a half.
13:03:56 <gjanssens> The upside there is we now have cooling ceilings (the summer equivalent of floor heating?) in the workshop and desk area. That lowers the temperature in those rooms with 5-8°C without the inconveniences of a traditional airco (cold drafts mostly).
13:04:19 <gjanssens> With the abnormally hot summer we're getting here that's a great luxury.
13:04:48 <jralls> Oh, that's, er, cool. Circulating cold water in the ceiling instead of hot water in the floor?
13:04:55 <gjanssens> Exactly
13:05:16 <gjanssens> Nice pun btw :D
13:05:40 <jralls> Did you already have the hot water in the floor? And if so do both run off the same heat pump?
13:07:54 <gjanssens> Parts of the floors had hot water running through. We did install a new heat pump to be able to have the cold water in the ceilings. The old heating was on gas still.
13:08:04 <gjanssens> But now it's all on a single heat pump.
13:08:49 <jralls> Nice. Now you need solar and a battery to run it... or did you already do that?
13:09:05 <gjanssens> Or more precisely, it's the same ground circuit. In winter the heat pump is active to run water of about 35°C through the house. In summer it's just a normal pump that circulates the water.
13:09:30 <gjanssens> Ground water is around 16°C which is more than cold enough to cool the ceilings (and the floors for that matter).
13:09:49 <gjanssens> Any colder would induce condense in the ceilings and that's to be avoided.
13:10:02 <jralls> There's an understatement!
13:10:27 <gjanssens> Solar is the last bit of the renovation that still needs to be finished (too bad given the amount of sun we had this summer already)
13:10:38 <gjanssens> And battery should indeed be part of it.
13:10:57 <gjanssens> As for the xdghelp PR, I'd like to merge it rather sooner than later. I may not be able to work much longer in my current time window and I worry it would get much harder to merge if I have to come back to it in a couple of weeks/months.
13:11:01 <jralls> Most excellent.
13:11:04 <gjanssens> Do you see any objections ?
13:11:40 <jralls> None. Do you think you'll have time to do Frank's help->manual rename?
13:12:04 <gjanssens> I'll certainly try. It doesn't seem to hard from a cmake point of view.
13:12:22 <gjanssens> s/to/too/
13:12:46 <jralls> Right. Minus the inevitable gotchas should take less than an hour.
13:12:57 <gjanssens> Something like that yes.
13:13:17 <jralls> And 8 with the gotchas. :-/
13:18:23 <gjanssens> LOL
13:19:00 <gjanssens> Right, as I have been practicing this gnucash-docs merge a couple of times earlier today *that* only took a few minutes :)
13:19:06 <gjanssens> GTG now
13:19:11 <gjanssens> TTYL
13:19:15 <jralls> Bye!
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