2022-08-15 GnuCash IRC logs

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05:29:51 <rzerres> Hey list
05:30:31 <rzerres> i got stucked while hacking the new distribution list feature in gnucash
05:30:51 <rzerres> may someone can give me a light.
05:42:24 <rzerres> the latest repro is as usual on github (https://github.com/rzerres/gnucash/tree/coowner)
06:00:26 <rzerres> i did summerize the intention in https://github.com/rzerres/gnucash/blob/coowner/doc/property-management.md
06:02:11 <rzerres> Where i have no clue:
06:02:44 <rzerres> gncDistributionList.c: line 105
06:03:21 <rzerres> I do initialize a pointer to a _book_info structure (which is working in gncBillTerm.c)
06:04:17 <rzerres> but calling line 107: book_info = qof_book_get_data (qof_instance_get_book(distriblist), _GNC_MOD_NAME);
06:04:48 <rzerres> the structure stays NULL. And i have no clue to that.
06:05:35 <rzerres> Thus the *gncDistribListCreate (QofBook *book) can't work out as expected ....
06:06:59 <rzerres> should i post this to gnucash-devel?
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06:48:15 <fell> rzerres: which 'distribution list feature'?
06:49:06 <rzerres> i invented it for coowner.
06:49:34 <rzerres> compare this to bill terms for invoices.
06:49:44 <fell> ah, your feature
06:49:51 <rzerres> yes
06:50:31 <rzerres> @fell we did had a shot discussion in the german mailing list ....
06:50:31 <gncbot> rzerres: Error: "fell" is not a valid command.
06:50:52 <rzerres> we did had a shot discussion in the german mailing list ....
06:51:00 <fell> nd what is the difference to invoice/bill?
06:51:36 <rzerres> every coowner has a defined share on the property.
06:52:43 <rzerres> apportionable costs have to be allocate as proportionate costs.
06:53:23 <rzerres> thus distribution lists define a max share / max percentage for all shares.
06:54:01 <rzerres> Then you assign coonwers to this list and define the share amount of that coowner.
06:54:16 <fell> OK, after collecting your bills, you want to redistribute the costs to the owners as invoices, right?
06:54:58 <rzerres> where bills are collected books/accounts.
06:55:43 <rzerres> In my case, there isn't just one formula for all books.
06:56:26 <rzerres> e.g. costs for garages are only allocated as proportional costs to those coowner owning a garage.
06:57:21 <fell> More or less a "Nebenkosten-Abrechnung"
06:57:31 <rzerres> Vice versa, owners that only have garages and no appartment in the MEG will not get debits for expenses concerning the MEG
06:57:43 <rzerres> this !is! the aim.
06:58:18 <fell> with different keays: qm, heads, consumed kWh, …
06:58:29 <rzerres> whatever.
06:58:55 <rzerres> I like to be as open as possible when it gets to the selection of the accounts.
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06:59:10 <rzerres> This is in term a definition in the bill settings.
07:00:08 <rzerres> Well to be correct: Once i start the bill definition, the preselection will use accounts that are apportionable ("abrechenbar").
07:00:17 <fell> Do youu have some knowledge of cost accountinng and how it can be done in GnuCash?
07:00:48 <rzerres> But user should be able to select whatever he likes from the account-list ("Kontenplan").
07:01:43 <rzerres> Beside the concept of A/payable and A/receivable?
07:02:45 <fell> Right, the internal accounting of costs. They are probably slightly differentt from expenses.
07:03:04 <rzerres> yes. that's right.
07:03:43 <rzerres> The apportinable accounts should be seen as a subtype of expenses/incomes
07:05:04 <rzerres> I think if these types are integrated and you just log in the costs subaccounts of the "placeholder" expense/income account preselection could work out without any intervention.
07:05:13 <fell> No, they are internal.
07:05:58 <rzerres> What is the difference between internal accounts and types/subtypes?
07:06:40 <rzerres> official accounts and internal accounts need to have a class in gnucash to assign them, right?
07:07:42 <fell> No, that is implicit knowledge.
07:08:19 <rzerres> And how to gain this knownledge when creating a split? What account should be the expense account?
07:09:25 <rzerres> by the way, we can continue in german on another channel, if that disturbs this list?
07:11:46 <rzerres> I already have a working patch for this. But haven't tested, if given reports will result in different numbers :)
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09:18:22 <samtc> hi!
09:20:57 <samtc> Other than Actions -> Lots, is there a way to see attached payment to an invoice/bill?
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12:27:43 <gjanssens> samtc: you can open the invoice report for that invoice/bill and in options select to show payment details
12:32:47 <gjanssens> The other option is to open a customer/vendor report for the owner of the invoice/vendor. Then in the options select "Detailed" for "Transaction Links" under the "Display Columns" tab. On the report that opens, you can click an invoice/bill line on the left-hand side and it will highlight all associated payments on the right-hand side.
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13:24:04 <samtc> @gjanssens : thanks! exactly what I was looking for!
13:24:04 <gncbot> samtc: Error: "gjanssens" is not a valid command.
13:25:13 <samtc> oops, first time I use the @ prefix on IRC since 1995 :)
13:25:26 <gjanssens> samtc: you're welcome :)
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