2021-07-10 GnuCash IRC logs

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19:09:00 <fell> F::Q wants to offer crypocurrencies. :-(
19:09:40 * jralls is surprised it took this long.
19:10:10 <jralls> Do they want to include them in the currency source?
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19:11:30 <fell> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2021-July/045900.html
19:19:58 <jralls> Oh. Yes, they seem to. Sigh.
19:26:29 <fell> Bruce was the last month the most active dev there.
19:29:14 <fell> Perhaps, if he wants to develope a second namespace in currency for 5.0?
19:31:23 <jralls> You mean if he wants us to? He's not likely to write any code for GnuCash.
19:33:44 <jralls> But that's an intresting idea worth exploring: We could create *two* new namespaces: CRYPTOCURRENCY and OBSOLETE_CURRENCY. The latter would collect all of those no longer used currencies and allow us to automate ISO-4217 changes.
19:38:36 <fell> Before currencies were convertet xo xml, I had the idea to put them in a C table and add fields replaced_by, replace-date, replace-rate and a funtion is obsolete, if they are set.
19:42:44 <jralls> I'm not in favor of putting the data in a C file. IMO it's better to store it in some other format and load it at program start or backend initialization.
19:44:20 <fell> The language doesn't matter, but mainenance is easier done on a table than a list.
19:45:01 <fell> Endless scrolling up and down to compare e.g. RUB with RUR.
19:45:51 <jralls> Sounds like you'd like CSV.
19:46:51 <fell> Not bad.
19:47:27 <jralls> My idea for the ISO currencies would be that we don't edit the file at all, we just load the ISO committee's file, updating it as part of doing a release.
19:49:16 <fell> The missing part are the number of decimals and perhaps separate for books and cash.
19:52:03 <jralls> The number of decimals are in the <CcyMnrUnts> tag. What do you mean "separate for books and cash"?
19:52:10 <fell> oh, they have a minor unit
19:53:08 <jralls> What they don't have in there is a symbol character.
19:54:00 <fell> Dstpite the smallest coin is 10k, IDR, books still have sen.
19:54:37 <fell> That was collected by me from wikipedia.
19:56:13 <fell> Tat stared, when locales were still buggy. Today I would not redo it.
19:56:35 <fell> That started .
20:10:46 <jralls> The catch there is that Apple doesn't seem to have /usr/share/locale/id_ID*, and while Apple primarily uses ICU that may mean that FreeBSD doesn't have the locale either.
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20:21:50 <jralls> But it's long past time we ditched posix localization and switched to ICU anyway.
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20:32:33 <fell> for libc the data are in /usr/share/i18n/locales/
20:38:07 <jralls> Sort of. On Linux the data for generating locales lives there. There's no such directory on MSYS2 or *BSD including macOS.
20:41:00 <jralls> But I don't think even GCC's libc knows to look there for locale data. You modify /etc/locale.gen to uncomment the locales you want and then run locale-gen to generate the actual locales in /usr/share/locale. libc's localization functions read /usr/share/locale.
20:46:12 <fell> just an idea how to generate the missing bits.
20:50:54 <jralls> Doesn't help much if the OS missing the bits doesn't provide it.
20:51:30 <jralls> Company tonight, GTG.
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