2021-05-21 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:07:00 <chris> XUL is not cutting edge nowadays
04:12:49 <chris> this honour belongs to HTML5+JS = electron, yay (not!)
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04:33:34 <chris> I don't suppose anyone wants to rewrite gnucash as an electron app :-o
04:54:58 * gjanssens ponders...
04:55:00 <gjanssens> Eh, no
04:55:05 <gjanssens> :D
05:08:16 <chris> took you 3s to decide :)
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13:37:43 <warlord> thanks, jralls . handled
13:37:55 <jralls> Did you ban the ip?
13:38:49 <warlord> no, just handled the logs.
13:45:00 <jralls> OK. It seems to have lost interest so I'll leave off further action until it appears again.
13:47:21 <warlord> ok
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17:35:44 <Antisoche> Hi all, having a problem with online bacnking setup. Using Ubuntu 21.04 but installed and running from the Flakpak am having the same issue: When I click to "Start AqBanking Wizard", nothing happens. Does this work for anybody? Adding "--debug" and "--extra" sheds no light on the situation.
17:37:18 <Antisoche> Flatpak version 4.5, BuildID Flathub 4.5, Finance::Quote 1.49. I saw a bug report saying a perl module was needed, but I have that module on Ubuntu. I would expect the Flatpak to work regardless.
17:38:51 <Antisoche> (Ubuntu version is 4.4, Build ID 4.4+(2020-12-28)
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17:47:26 <fell> Antisoche, while testing dependency updates before pushing them, I usually verify the assistant opens.
17:51:13 <Antisoche> fell: I'm not sure if you're telling me that it should be working here. Ubuntu actually ships with a newer aqbanking than the Flatpak (6.2.10 vs 6.2.9). I tried 'strace -ff' but saw no fork, exec, or spawn calls.
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17:55:01 <Antisoche> Aha. I removed my old ~/.aqbanking directory and the wizard is opening now. Guess this program is still kinda flakey...
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17:55:39 <fell> since Mar 28, 2021 we have built the nightlies with aqbanking-6.2.10 , since May 16, 2021 with 6.3.0
17:58:02 <Antisoche> Good to know, thanks. I'll probably keep with the Ubuntu build though, and purge flatpak when I'm feeling ambitious. For now I need to get all my numbers in sync again...
17:58:05 <fell> Ah, that could mean, 6.2.9 does
17:58:44 <fell> understand something from 6.2.10 written.
18:01:25 <Antisoche> It's probably older than that. It looks like the last update in the directory was April 2018. I think it broke months ago but it was never really reliable enough for me, so I mostly use OFX that I download manually. But it's time to try again.
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18:03:08 <fell> As long as your Ubuntu fulfills your requirements keep their version.
18:05:07 <fell> There might have been another .aqbanking in flatpaks .var/app/… on which you worked in between.
18:06:42 <Antisoche> fell: Thanks for the heads up. When the Wizard was failing I could click "Next". Now that the wizard works and I created an account, I no longer can. <sigh>
18:08:42 <fell> were you able to create your directofx connection?
18:09:31 <Antisoche> Yes, I think. It showed the cert but when I clicked "Retrieve Accounts" I didn't get any back. I'm trying another bank now...
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18:13:30 <fell> you could try to leave and redo online-banking-setup, if existent, assign the account.
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18:13:35 <Antisoche> Hm. One bank asked for a password and seemed to work. The new one doesn't ask for a password and fails immediately.
18:13:58 <Antisoche> I did try closing and reopening.
18:14:16 <fell> perhaps jralls can help with OFX details.
18:14:35 <Antisoche> That is, I closed GNUCash, moved that .var directory out of the way, and ran GNUCash again.
18:14:44 <fell> I am in Europe (other protocolls)
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18:15:42 <Antisoche> If I recall I need something to return a list of accounts, and then I can associate one of those with an account in GNUCash.
18:16:24 <jralls> Antisoche, did AQBanking say that it retrieved n accounts but when you switched tabs there weren't any there?
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18:17:31 <Antisoche> No, it didn't say anything meaningful that I recall. I have debugging on and it just printed header info (Server/Mime-Version/.../Connection).
18:18:16 <Antisoche> Paypal is supported though and I have an account there, so that should get me past this point. I may have to call the others to get OFX working again...
18:20:06 <jralls> Sounds like you didn't successfully connect. Are you sure that you have the right URI and credentials, and that the bank supports OFX Direct Connect?
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18:27:35 <Antisoche> jralls: For the second bank, no. For the first one I think yes but for sure, no. This is why I'm trying PayPal. The instructions in the AqBanking dialog don't work though. Either I can't find the right "My Profile" page or the "API Access" option is gone.
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18:29:36 <fell> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Paypal_einrichten
18:29:51 <fell> Sorry, no translation until now.
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18:30:00 <Antisoche> Chrome handles it :)
18:30:01 <fell> Paypal API aktivieren (https://paypal.com)
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18:30:54 <jralls> Sorry, I've never used the AQB on Paypal, I won't be of much help there.
18:32:26 <Antisoche> fell provided a link to the magic URL I think
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18:33:05 <fell> login there
18:33:30 <Antisoche> It looks like they broke it.
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18:34:08 <fell> if no registered business user, activate the aPI https://www.paypal.com/businessmanage/credentials/apiAccess
18:34:36 <Antisoche> fell: Yes, but the second link goes back to the profile page.
18:35:00 <Antisoche> (.../firstparty)
18:36:21 <fell> select NVP/SOAP-API-Integration (classic)
18:36:39 <Antisoche> Yes, it's the same link:
18:37:07 <Antisoche> "Manage API Credentials" is this address: https://www.paypal.com/businessprofile/mytools/apiaccess/firstparty
18:37:46 <Antisoche> Same URL as in the Wiki, but it just goes back to the "Profile" page: https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/settings/
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18:39:25 <fell> I only get the login page, but have my paypal data on another PC in another town.
18:39:52 <fell> I didn't use it ba decade .
18:40:59 <Antisoche> I started using it again when one of my credit cards gave me 5% back to do it.
18:41:48 <Antisoche> About half the links on that page let me turn on remote access, the other half go back to the Profile.
18:44:07 <fell> You are registered as business or private user there?
18:44:18 <Antisoche> Private user only
18:44:57 <fell> Perhaps they rearranged the menu structure?
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18:45:32 <fell> In theory you need 1. enable API access,
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18:46:01 <fell> 2. select NVP/SOAP
18:46:54 <fell> They should then send you a confirmation code by SMS.
18:47:12 <Antisoche> They just added crypto so I think they're changing quite a few things around. From this page it looks like it requires a Business Account now: https://developer.paypal.com/developer/accountStatus/ ... based on this page saying that you just need to use the "Live toggle" for NVP/SOAP: https://developer.paypal.com/developer/applications
18:52:59 <fell> Too many moving targets for me tonight. ;-)
18:55:26 <Antisoche> I concur. Looking at my old configuration to compare... My first bank definitely should have worked. I may have my userid in the wrong place...
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19:00:26 <Antisoche> Oh, interesting. I told GNUCash to save the password in memory, and it looks like it's sending the password for bank1 to bank2, which is why I wasn't prompted.
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19:05:04 <Antisoche> Even more interesting, I unselected the "remember password" option and it still remembered it. It seems obvious that this isn't a GNUCash problem, but I exited out of the wizard and did setup again and relaunched the wizard, and it still remembered the password. I have to restart GNUCash to make it forget...
19:07:38 <fell> That could be a bug, but do more testing before reporting.
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19:08:19 <Antisoche> What would you suggest? Right now I _must_ restart GNUCash to make it forget the first password I type in.
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19:09:25 <Antisoche> Edit->Preferences->Online Banking->"Verbose debug messages" doesn't latch either...
19:12:42 <Antisoche> Same in the Flatpak
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