2021-01-18 GnuCash IRC logs

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08:25:27 <chris> warlord: comparing T and U's string->number won't work because they're formatted strings, eg "1,234.56"
08:30:14 <warlord> chris, I don't see the issue. You convert T-as-string -> number "1,234.56 -> numeric" and U-as-string -> number (U-str -> numeric) and then compare the numeric results.
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08:32:49 <chris> warlord: because strings must be preparsed to determine which format it uses
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08:33:25 <warlord> is there any evidence that they would use different (comma/period) radix numbers?
08:33:51 <chris> they actually do... see 798085's attachment
08:34:49 <chris> in anycase PR now amended to be cleaner
08:41:29 <warlord> No, both U and T seem to use period for the decimal separator.
08:41:53 <warlord> lack of comma for the thousands separators shouldn't be an issue for the parser.
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09:24:10 <chris> warlord: we're assuming Quicken 2005 en_US version
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09:32:35 <warlord> chris, i understand, but my statement still holds; T and U strings will still have the same decimal-radix character so could still be parsed using the same parser and then numerics compared
09:32:52 <warlord> (modulo 32-bit rollover)
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09:34:00 <chris> too much internal change required to parse both string->number and compare warlord.
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09:58:42 <warlord> chris, fair enough..
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10:41:38 <warlord> hey gnomey -- your IRC system is spamming the channel every 5 minutes. Can you take a look, please?
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11:47:00 <olfried> Hello, can someone please help me with aqhbci-tool4? I tried to print the "iniletter" from withinh Gnucash, but GnuCash freezed. Now I'd like to print the iniletter on CLI using the command aqhbci-tool4 iniletter -u xxxxxxxxxxxx ERROR: User with id xxxxxxxxxxxx not found
11:47:00 <olfried> 3:2021/01/18 17-42-52:aqhbci-tool(641107):aqhbci-tool.c: 275: Error calling control function (2) The option -u is not declared in the manual but on some pages in the net. If you use "aqhbci-tool4 iniletter" ERROR: Invalid or missing unique user id
11:47:00 <olfried> 3:2021/01/18 17-45-06:aqhbci-tool(651930):aqhbci-tool.c: 275: Error calling control function (1) I use Versions:
11:47:00 <olfried> Gwenhywfar : 5.1.3.0
11:47:01 <olfried> AqBanking : 6.0.1.0
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11:50:44 <warlord> olfried, you might need to ask on the AqB lists...
11:53:39 <olfried> Sorry I'm a noob, is there a chat too? Or just a mailing list
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12:20:12 <warlord> olfried, sorry, I don't know. i know they have a mailing list; don't know if they have a chat.
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12:22:23 <olfried> THX, the had a mailing list - but it seems down even the archive is down - I could process the ini-letter from inside GnuCash (a fairly hidden process)
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12:23:03 <warlord> worst case you can try asking on the gnucash-de mailing list, in german?
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12:31:23 <jralls> warlord, WRT QIF from Quicken the string mistmatch is expected behavior. The only time a warning would be justified is if the numeric T != (int32_t)U, but chris doesn't want to go there.
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12:35:10 <warlord> jralls, Yes, that's what I was saying.. compare the results of string->number of T and U and warn IFF T->num != U->num (including the wraparound). E.g. if you have T100 U200
12:35:17 <warlord> That should issue a warning
12:39:43 <jralls> Right. But given that it's probably extremely rare maybe it's not worth the added logic.
12:45:04 <warlord> Probably.
12:45:42 <warlord> Maybe if U and T are found in the same transaction then you display a SINGLE warning to the user to verify the numbers? Or maybe not.
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12:46:31 <jralls> That would be every transaction for Quicken >= 2005. Let's not.
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14:30:13 <fell> Olfried, bietet deine Bank überhaupt noch HBCI an? Die meisten wollen doch PIN/TAN-Verfahren.
14:33:55 <fell> warlord, most german banks switched from HBCI (with ini letter) to PIN/TAN.
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14:35:53 <fell> I hope CWehli will after the rewrite of the whole data exchange complex in German also update the Engliish translation.
14:36:10 <fell> in the wiki
14:42:28 <warlord> fell, i have no idea what iniletter is, honestly.
14:43:08 <fell> Exchange of the public key with the bank
14:43:55 <fell> You have to print it out and sign before delivering to the bank.
14:45:21 <fell> And then connections using this key are allowed to transfer money from your account.
14:47:40 <warlord> ok
15:06:30 <olfried> @fell HBCI ist kein Problem, PIN/TAN habe ich zuletzt 2000 genutzt
15:06:30 <gncbot> olfried: Error: "fell" is not a valid command.
15:07:39 <olfried> HBCI ist kein Problem, PIN/TAN habe ich zuletzt 2000 genutzt.
15:07:54 <fell> Also, deine Bank bietet klassisches HBCI an?
15:09:05 <olfried> definiere "klassisch", Ist ..3.0 RD? 10.0 - Chipkarte oder Schluesseladatei
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15:10:43 <fell> Für Chipkarten muß wohl libchipcard installiert sein.
15:11:38 <fell> Welches OS?
15:12:02 <olfried> mag sein, ich nehme schluesseldatei -Linux
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15:12:45 <fell> Disttri oder flatpak?
15:13:12 <olfried> da ich nicht weiss was ein Flatpack ist, distri
15:14:34 <fell> Welche?
15:14:49 <olfried> ubutu 20,04
15:15:12 <fell> OK
15:17:09 <fell> wir schreiben gerrade https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Online-Banking um -nach über 10 jahren.
15:19:03 <fell> Übrigens, wenn Gnucash einfriert, interessiert uns das auch.
15:19:45 <fell> Es lag nicht daran, daß ein Eingabe-Fenster hinter einem anderen verborgen war?
15:21:49 <olfried> Nein, nachdem ich innerhalb des Einrichtwizards fertig war, wollte ich den ini-brief drucken. nach klick auf Drucken war nicht nur der Wizard weg sondern auch gnucash lies sich nur noch ueber -9 beenden.
15:22:12 <fell> Und das Generieren eines Schlüssels kann, je nach Hardware schon einpaar Minuten dauern.
15:23:13 <olfried> Heute habe ich (waehrend ich meine Userkennung suchte den Knopf fuer ini-brief gefunden) einen "ini-Brief-Knopf" gefunden. Konnte von dort aus zwar nicht drucken aber eine Screenshot machen.
15:24:31 <olfried> Schluesselgenerierung ist/war kein Problem. Mein Rechner ist tagsueber eine (sorry) Windows CAD-Maschine mit genuegend Dampf :)
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15:28:01 <fell> Sas solltest du auf jeden Fall noch mal ausführlich über die Mailing-liste https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-de berichten. Sihe auch https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Feedback.
15:29:11 <olfried> Ok, ich werden in Kuerze noch einen zweiten Rechner mit GnuCash ausstatten. Ich kann dann das Verhalten noch einmal genau dokumentieren.
15:30:31 <fell> Gut. Jetzt zu den Aqbanking-tools
15:30:58 <fell> Das offizielle Handbuch: https://aquamaniac.de/rdm/attachments/download/139/aqbanking6-handbook-20190221.pdf
15:31:43 <olfried> Unabhaengig vom Problem im GnuCash, haette ich auch gerne das CLI genutzt. Leider funktioniert ja auch das Drucken (oder das Listen) des ini-briefes mit aqhbci-tool4 nicht wie zu aqhbci-tool beschrieben "aqhbci-tool4 iniletter -u xxxxxxx*" Hier habe ich aber auch gar nix im Netz gefunden
15:32:19 <fell> Das zugehörige Wiki: https://aquamaniac.de/rdm/projects/aqbanking/wiki
15:33:50 <fell> Ja irgendwie gibt es da, gkaube ich zweierlei IDs.
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15:35:42 <fell> mit aqhbci-tool4 mach dorch erstmal listusers, listaccounts, …
15:37:44 <olfried> Ich habe gerad nochmal geguckt, (THY fuer die Links, das Handbuck hatte ich noch nicht gefunden] werde -u , -U, -c, -C noch die Konto/kunden# noch die Kennung (die ellenlange Zahl) funktionieren.
15:38:21 <olfried> Listusers geht, *accounts noch nicht da ich noch nicht "online" bin - noch keine Konten eingerichtet habe
15:39:18 <fell> Nein, welche Konten eingerichtet sind mit dem user
15:40:10 <olfried> 3:2021/01/18 21-37-30:aqhbci-tool(1899806):listaccounts.c: 84: No accounts found.
15:40:11 <olfried> 3:2021/01/18 21-37-30:aqhbci-tool(1899806):aqhbci-tool.c: 275: Error calling control function (3)
15:40:48 <olfried> Au Gnucash zeigt es ja alles an
15:44:34 <fell> soweit ich sehe 'aqhbci-tool4 iniletter --user=UUID' UUID natürlich ersetzen
15:48:27 <olfried> Nope
15:50:04 <olfried> ERROR: User with id 311916**** not found
15:50:04 <olfried> 3:2021/01/18 21-46-48:aqhbci-tool(1949963):aqhbci-tool.c: 275: Error calling control function (2) Wobei die gezeigte ID nich ansatzweise meine Kennung ist oder ein Teil davon
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16:42:02 <iam911> I have an issue if anyone can assist?
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16:53:08 <fell> am911, just describe the issue.
16:53:59 <fell> olfried, sorry, ich mußte zwischendurch ins real life.
16:54:36 <iam911> sorry, finding all the details. I have a linux system (ubuntu 16.04 LTS) that i normally use gnucash on but I had to do some offsite work with it and I downloaded and installed on my windows the latest (4.4) now my ubuntu version - which i am bout to find out (probably 2.something) won't open it, it complains about needing 3.3 for a reason. Any way to downgrade this file. Upgrading the linux system is out of the question for now, at l
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16:55:04 <iam911> 2.6.12 is what is on the ubuntu
16:55:24 <iam911> anyway, any advice will help and is appreciated
16:57:29 <iam911> the actual message says, when opening the gnucash file on 2.6 is "This dataset contains features not supported by this version of gnucash. you must use a newer version of gnucash in order to support eh following features: *Store the register sort and filter settings in .gcm metadata file (requires at least Gnucash 3.3) I have considered compiling at least 3.3 on the linux system however i havent found any solid information on if it's
16:58:10 <fell> iam911, I would upgrade from ubuntu LTS to ubuntu LTS, so 16 -> 18 -> 20.
16:58:38 <iam911> i realize that but that wont be happening until after tax season (it's my husbands machine and his choice to run old azz linux)
16:59:41 <fell> Or you can install the flatpak additionally.
17:00:28 <fell> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak
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17:03:35 <iam911> ok thanks, I will have to research that, haven't seen that, looks hopeful. I can probably convince the old man to upgrade linux but not in the next 2 weeks. I can alternatively work on the file on my windows system. Thank you for your assistance
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17:11:45 <iam911> Thank you again! I think this will do. at least temporarily.
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22:52:00 <sandybs> Hello
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22:54:54 <chintanbs> Hello
22:56:47 <chintanbs> I have been trying to setup my investments on gnucash. Specifically, I have created placeholder brokerage accounts, under which I created individual stock type accounts (one for each stock I own). However, each time I create a stock type account, I notice that gnucash automatically creates a corresponding equity:opening balance account. Any idea why?
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