2020-11-29 GnuCash IRC logs
00:01:41 <fell> the only change on that file was https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-htdocs/commit/6e63d96f05a984b9336e9ceb1b4cf62e6fcbb3a6#diff-01e179891df57300e9fd314cf3183bf59a5d5c7c80580b3b03723526f143b970
00:03:32 <warlord> fell, I honestly dont know what branch(es) www pulls from
00:04:32 <fell> 5 years ago, linas changed that file. So it is possible something is not clean there.
00:06:07 <warlord> could be. but we might need to reach out to him
00:06:40 <warlord> i have not heard back from him in months
00:06:55 <warlord> i sent mail to him back in May and have not heard back
00:11:25 <fell> @lastseen linas
00:11:25 <gncbot> fell: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
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00:47:15 <fell> @seen linas
00:47:15 <gncbot> fell: linas was last seen in #gnucash 14 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 23 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <linas> by chris
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01:09:26 <chris> fell: i still don't see test failure - see travis is quite happy https://travis-ci.org/github/gnucash/gnucash
01:09:48 <chris> I wonder why you get errors in test-owner-report
01:26:12 <fell> The last on travis was https://travis-ci.org/github/gnucash/gnucash/builds/745211762
01:30:15 <chris> fell: no I have reverted this change. check again.
01:37:18 <fell> Usually you should commit after a successful 'ninja check', but sometimes things go wrong. ;-)
01:38:41 <fell> like check on Repo A and push on repo B, …
01:53:38 <chris> the github failure comes from actions. check again.
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09:37:37 <Zweieck2> Hi!
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09:40:01 <Zweieck2> I'm trying to find my way around setting up online banking (in Germany). It was working before, but I kinda didn't need and thus neglected it, half a year passed, and I think I should get it working again ^^
09:43:24 <Zweieck2> Currently it seems to me that the bank thing is linked, but selecting e.g. "Get Balance" from the Online Actions just shows me "Online Action "Get Balance" not available for this account."
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10:14:41 <chris> CDB: one of my earliest insights into the difficulty of pricing stock is: buy 1STOCK @100. then 2:1 stock-split. I have 2 STOCK @ 50. The networth linechart should be a straight line, but is not. Any thoughts of a sound formula to calculate value at arbitrary time.
10:15:00 <chris> @jralls ^ this is why I'm motivated to incorporate acb-tool into libengine/apputils
10:15:00 <gncbot> chris: Error: "jralls" is not a valid command.
10:15:05 <chris> oh well
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11:13:01 <fell> @tell Zweieck2 Demnächst bitte ein paar Stündchen länger warten, bitte. Viele Infos findest du über https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/HBCI. Die besten Anworten kriegst du über die Mailing-Listen.
11:13:01 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
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12:26:05 <jralls> chris, that's what the New Price entry in the Stock Split assistant is for, so that there's a post-split price in the pricedb.
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16:01:23 <fell> How do I get the details from "The following tests FAILED: 96 - test-owner-report (Failed)"?
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16:49:19 <warlord> fell, run test-owner-report by hand?
16:54:07 <fell> And that is done how?
16:54:51 <warlord> Umm.. I dunno...
17:03:55 <fell> Reading Pedros htdocs pt.po patch reveals more mistakes in the sources than in his translation. :-(
17:06:34 <fell> Is there a common separator in en_US for a bullet list like in https://www.gnucash.org/beta/features.phtml Checkbook-Style Register?
17:09:45 <fell> … between the list elements.
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17:59:54 <chris> ctest -V -R test-owner-report
18:01:54 <chris> jralls: hmm using price-nearest shows incorrect chart for data points preceding stock-split
18:02:23 <chris> eg. immediatly before split it'll show I own 2 STOCK @ $100
18:02:38 <chris> eg. immediatly before split it'll show I own 1 STOCK @ $50, oops
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19:16:41 <jralls> chris, sounds like there
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19:18:40 <jralls> OIC. So for nearest in time you need a $100 price entry on the day before the split.
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19:20:45 <jralls> That's sort-of why David Carlson (Robert847 here) has been asking for a "nearest before" report option: His point is that if you have a price on friday and one on monday and the report date is sunday the report will pick up the monday price but should use the friday one.
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19:35:34 <fell> warlord:
19:35:36 <fell> *** Mirror changes to origin (usually github)...
19:35:37 <fell> To ssh://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-htdocs.git
19:35:39 <fell> e43ad91..384f4bf beta -> beta
19:35:40 <fell> 5e6c9e3..e43ad91 origin/beta -> origin/beta
19:35:42 <fell> *** Update beta website...
19:35:43 <fell> From code.gnucash.org:gnucash-htdocs
19:35:45 <fell> Ncat: Connection reset by peer.
19:36:03 <chris> jralls: yeah nearest-before sounds good.
19:36:05 <fell> let's see the beta now…
19:37:01 <chris> jralls: my absolute preference is to omit pricedb and have a stockacct->acb_prices glist key=date val=price
19:37:26 <chris> jralls: my absolute preference is to omit pricedb and have a stockacct->acb_prices glist of dates and prices
19:37:45 <chris> and obtain accurate avg-cost anytime
19:38:22 <chris> third option is to add a before-stock-split old price, very hackish
19:39:00 <fell> https://www.gnucash.org/beta/news.phtml successful updated (subtitlein pt)
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19:43:56 <fell> warlord:
19:43:57 <fell> *** Mirror changes to origin (usually github)...
19:43:59 <fell> To ssh://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-htdocs.git
19:44:00 <fell> e43ad91..384f4bf master -> master
19:44:02 <fell> e43ad91..384f4bf origin/beta -> origin/beta
19:44:03 <fell> *** Update main website...
19:44:05 <fell> From code.gnucash.org:gnucash-htdocs
19:44:06 <fell> Ncat: Connection reset by peer.
19:44:41 <fell> And the website is still behind.
19:46:28 <chris> jralls: my absolute preference is to omit pricedb and have a stockacct->acb_prices glist of dates and prices --> could be calculated on-the-fly in xaccAcountRecomputeBalance
19:46:47 <chris> ^ at no performance hit
19:48:48 <chris> ^ note xaccAccountRecomputeBalance has some blurb about handling priced accounts differently, but the code doesn't do it
19:55:34 <chris> I'm sure CDB could assist tweaking his formula to become a stockacct property
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20:13:33 <chris> I have a feeling the 'cumulative-acb' from 797796 spreadsheet is the 'average-cost' suitable for use in reports
20:13:51 <chris> no, 'acb-per-unit'
20:29:27 <warlord> fell, I'm getting this output:
20:29:28 <warlord> error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge:
20:29:28 <warlord> news/news-script.php
20:29:28 <warlord> Please commit your changes or stash them before you merge.
20:29:28 <warlord> Ncat: Connection reset by peer.
20:29:39 <warlord> I think we will need Linas' help, or someone who can ssh into www.gnucash
20:30:06 <warlord> I don't think I have access.. And I haven't heard from Linas in a while.
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22:01:10 <chris> jralls: augmenting gnc_pricedb to have a 'nearest-before' price is difficult to due indirect-price-conversion.
22:01:35 <chris> jralls: (I assume you won't want nearest-before in guile)
22:01:55 <chris> I bail.
22:02:46 <chris> difficult = too many internal refactoring required
22:06:39 <chris> I'd still prefer ignore pricedb and use cdb's formulas to derive a 'commodity-price-at-date' functio
22:15:02 <chris> see latest commit https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/tree/maint-pricedb-nearest-before not completed yet.
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22:25:01 <chris> (if nearest-before was in guile it'd be easy!)
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23:34:34 <CDB-Man> you cannot ignore pricedb
23:34:45 <CDB-Man> price db gives you market value, which is not a derived value
23:35:32 <CDB-Man> transaction prices get input into price db as well, we can and should read those if we arent already
23:35:52 <CDB-Man> but that still doesn't replace EOD pricing
23:39:57 <CDB-Man> pricedb wont have indirect price conversion issues after we have root currency properly implemented