2020-08-27 GnuCash IRC logs

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05:45:24 <geo> We frequently have to write credit notes for customers which have to be booked as expenses and payables. At the moment I only can book a CUST_CREDIT_NOTE as income and receivable. I'm looking for the same functionality as for VEND_CREDIT_NOTE pointing to expense / payable accounts, but for customers. Any idea, how to go there?
06:47:41 <Wilco> If it's an expense, it's not really a credit note, but a bill to your customer, I guess?
06:48:23 <Wilco> Personally I don't like that customers and vendors are completely separate, though, most of my customers are also vendors in my accounts now
06:48:37 <Wilco> so double the entry work
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08:16:37 <warlord> Wilco, sorry about that.
08:21:48 <Wilco> No need to apologize :)
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08:22:22 <Wilco> I can live with that design decision, though it makes payments that settle both a bit more difficult
08:23:17 <Wilco> You send a bill to someone, they have a higher invoice for you, they only transfer the difference noting both invoice IDs
08:23:24 <Wilco> and then the puzzle begins :)
08:31:58 <geo> We are farmers who sell the harvest together. When I got the whole money, I have to pass it through proportionally, which we do by customer credit note, but then I just can choose income accounts ...
08:38:10 <fell> geo, just think about the cooperative part as a separate item. How would the invoices and payments then flow?
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09:10:07 <geo> theoretically the single farmers should write invoices for their products to the cooperative, but practically the cooperative does the job and writes customer credit notes for the farmers, so it's a bit reverse.
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11:01:16 <chris> Wilco: to sidestep this GnuCash peculiarity I'd use a suspense asset account which receives the invoice&bill payments, and transfer the difference to the main bank account
11:03:12 <chris> you'd lose the easy jump-to-invoice feature from bank account, but with free-text referencing you can solve the puzzles
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12:15:52 <fell> geo: or the coop could register bills for them.
12:16:46 <fell> On delivery enter amount and product.
12:17:11 <fell> After sale you know the price.
12:17:30 <fell> Enter it, post and pay the bill.
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12:47:37 <FH_thecat> does gnucash depend on perl, or is perl only needed for fetching finance quotes from yahoo and such ?
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12:48:16 <FH_thecat> in other words, can I use gnucash without perl ?
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13:10:32 <warlord> FH_thecat, GnuCash does not depend on perl; it is only used for quotes
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13:31:24 <FH_thecat> warlord, when I start gnucash, it attempts to start perl
13:32:00 <FH_thecat> specifically, gnucash launches perl, and perl is looking for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gnucash/gnucash
13:32:10 <FH_thecat> and for /usr/bin/gnc-fq-check
13:32:22 <FH_thecat> can I tell gnucash not to start perl at all ?
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14:11:26 <warlord> FH_thecat, no. It's starting perl to look for the quote grabber. But that failing doesn't prevent GnuCash from running.
14:11:51 <warlord> But there is no way (without recompiling) to tell gnucash not to look for F::Q
14:16:00 <fell> or remove F::Q
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14:21:09 <warlord> that wont stop GnuCash from starting perl looking for it.
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14:25:18 <jralls> The perl code is wrapped in scheme so it *is* possible to block it without a recompile: Find price-quotes.scm and remove `(dynamic-wind start-program get-sources kill-program)` from line 63.
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14:27:54 <jralls> Or perhaps simpler change line 531 from (let ((sources (gnc:fq-chec-sources))) to (let ((sources #f)).
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17:33:43 <amarilisten> Hola
17:33:50 <amarilisten> Busco ayuda en español
17:40:19 <warlord> amarilisten, generalmente hablamos en Inglés aqui
17:40:48 <amarilisten> Tengo una consultasobre reportes.
17:41:09 <amarilisten> En todo caso, necesito saber el chat en español
17:41:42 <warlord> tenemos una lista de email, gnucash-es@gnucash.org
17:42:05 <amarilisten> But Someone can help me?
17:42:25 <amarilisten> It is about of Reports
17:42:39 <warlord> I dont know how active the spanish email list is. Here we can try to help you, but as you can tell, my spanish is barely passable :)
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17:44:36 <amarilisten> Thanks warlord
17:45:30 <amarilisten> Problema: Cuando saco reporte de activos y pasivos (Assets and Liabilities) salen todas las partidas incluidas las que tienen "0".
17:46:04 <warlord> Y no quiere las que tienen 0?
17:48:02 <amarilisten> Asi es.
17:48:10 <amarilisten> Salen muchas líneas
17:50:31 <warlord> ¿Cual Reporte, exactamente?
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17:54:29 <amarilisten> Un momento...
17:55:50 <amarilisten> Hoja de Balance
17:57:03 <amarilisten> En /Estados/ Activos y pasivos
17:57:04 <amarilisten> /Estados / Ingresos y Gastos.
17:57:17 <amarilisten> Todos muestran incluso las que tienen "0"
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17:59:57 <warlord> Sorry, I'm going to have to respond in English now.
18:00:37 <warlord> If you open the Report Options and go to "Display", there is an option "Omit zero balance figures". Check that, and it should omit accounts with 0 balance.
18:03:20 <amarilisten> I will try.
18:05:37 <amarilisten> I can not find that. Where is it exacty?
18:22:30 <amarilisten> I found it but... It show the same. Only "0" dissapeared but I would like The lines which contains "0" also not appear in the report
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18:32:03 <warlord> There's no way to remove 0-balance parent accounts.
18:32:32 <warlord> BUt you can play with the options to try to get it closer to what you need.
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