2020-08-26 GnuCash IRC logs

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05:05:58 <roxart> hey all im back :P
05:06:57 <roxart> hi fell_laptop hattest du meine letzten posts noch gesehen? leider konnte ich nicht herausfinden woran der fehler lag (war dann in den ferien und habe nicht mehr gesehen ob du geantwortet hast)
05:08:23 <roxart> kannst du mir möglicherweise folgendes noch beantworten: kann ich wenn ich jetzt 2019 abschliesse, das selbe file für 2020 weiterführen - stimmen dann die reports automatisch wenn ich die periode anpasse? muss ich einfach gewinn / verlust in den vortrag per 1.1. buchen oder ist da eine andere herangehensweise besser?
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10:45:43 <fell> roxart, wann haben wir uns zuletzt unterhalten?
10:58:46 <roxart> vor ca 2 wochen
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11:24:08 <fell> roxart: https://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2020/08/13.html#T06:41:02 waren deine letzten ußerungen?
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11:27:42 <roxart> fell: ja - war einfach noch feedback vor meinen ferien, mit neu aufsetzen hats scheinbar geklappt mit den eur konten
11:30:00 <fell> Without looking in the sources, I assume Chris has to allow not displaying "Unrealized Gains" with sum 0.
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11:32:19 <fell> Vom Programm her brauchst du das Buch nicht zu schließen, da du bei GuV-Berichten i.d.R. Start- und Enddatum angibst..
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11:33:54 <fell> Es kann aber z.B. für deine Steuererklärung übersichtlicher sein, die Konten (halb-)manuell ab zu schließen.
11:35:16 <fell> Da mußt du aber mit den Beschreibungstexten "Closing entries" und dem Stichtag aufpassen.
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11:37:34 <fell> Am Einfachsten ist es da das Geschäftsjahr am 2.1. zu beginnen und die Abschlußbuchungen auf Neujahr zu datieren oder am 30.12. beenden und Sylvester für den Abschluß nehmen.
11:39:15 <roxart> meinst du mit Abschlussbuchungen zb den gewinn auf das gewinnvortragskonto und dergleichen?
11:39:26 <fell> eben
11:40:16 <roxart> also inventur am 30.12. buchen und dann gewinn am 31. verbuchen
11:40:47 <fell> wenn du am 31.12. keine Geschäftsvorfälle hast
11:40:50 <roxart> wüsste nicht was ich sonst noch für abschlussbuchungen haben müsste sehe da nichts wirlklich
11:40:53 <roxart> ne habe ich nicht
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11:42:39 <fell> Wertberichtigungen (Ab- und Zuschreibungen)?
11:43:15 <fell> Rückstellungen für strittige Ansprüche
11:43:59 <roxart> nope :)
11:44:19 <roxart> das ist hier ein quasi nullsumenspiel nebenbei für die jungen ;)
11:44:40 <roxart> mein "gewinn" ist 178 :D
11:44:45 <fell> Reservebildung mindert aktuelle Steuer
11:45:25 <fell> OK
11:45:55 <roxart> die steuern auf 178 sind wohl 30 oder so ich glaube da muss ich nicht noch rumbasteln oder? :D
11:46:19 <fell> Steuerberater ist wohl teurer. ;-9
11:46:27 <roxart> genau haha
11:48:12 <roxart> wie ist dann die richtige buchung für die 178 am 31.12?
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11:48:31 <roxart> aufs gewinnvortragskonto von wo?
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11:50:01 <fell> Ich muß sagen, eure Kontenklasse 9 ist verdächtig übersichtlich.
11:51:19 <fell> Bei uns wird das noch nach Gruppen aufgegliedert, um zusätzliche Kennzahlen zu erhalten.
11:51:38 <roxart> ah stimmt da ist nur ei konto drinn :O
11:52:02 <roxart> aber ich denke bei komplizierteren angelegenheiten werden da schon unterkonten angelegt?
11:52:48 <fell> Kannst ja mal den Autor über gnucash-de anschreiben, ob da noch was geplant ist.
11:53:39 <roxart> ich glaube das ist einfach der offizielle kmu kontenrahmen von dem ch verband oder so als grundlage
11:54:52 <fell> Ich glaube mich zu entsinnen, daß die den jetzt modular aufgebaut haben und er erstmal das Grundmodul implementiert hat.
11:55:02 <roxart> ist möglich
11:55:14 <roxart> aber für was ich mache ist das ja genug....
11:59:46 <fell> Schön
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12:09:39 <roxart> danke für die Hilfe, schade haben wir den Fehler nicht wirklich gefunden, ich denke aber es hat wohl was mit dem zwischenzeitlichen Update zu tun gehabt, einzig sinnvolle Erklärung
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