2020-08-01 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:34:11 <chris> For the past 17 years, the imported transaction date's weekday was used as a token for import matching. Proposal to remove it?
03:34:14 <chris> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/b2ccbf62cf04adddbf3464875c6521582b353964#diff-850f08dfed5a3eccd9805f2796d81ff0R414
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03:38:36 <chris> Also we should remove useless tokens e.g. 1-2 chars long
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04:47:04 <pierredugland1> hello all - a bit confused by the net worth linechart report. I was assuming that the currency of the report was just the unit and that it would show the same number converted into different currencies. But it does not seem to be the case. Is it supposed to represent your net worth in a currency by taking only those assets and liabilities in that currency ? How does it handle liabilities where the top account is in a currency while the
04:47:04 <pierredugland1> individual loans under it are in another and/or different currencies ?
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05:08:23 <fell> chris is the report expert, pierredugland1.
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05:52:39 <fell> warlord, 09:47, 25. Jul. 2020 I created User:Hendrik (password was sent by email). Now, I try https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AEmailUser&target=Henrik and get "The user did not enter a valid email address."
05:56:17 <fell> Do we have a storage problem in account request/creation? In earlier times I was also able to review processed requests, now they no longer exists.
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06:24:33 <chris> pierredugland1: the networth charts converts each account currency to target currency. parent account currency isn't used.
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08:44:26 <gjanssens> .
08:44:52 <gjanssens> Hi all, long time no see
08:45:17 * gjanssens has been on vacation and chose to mostly disconnect
08:46:06 <gjanssens> And it looks like my life is taking turns recently that leave me very little time left for GnuCash
08:47:08 <gjanssens> I'm still evaluating my future level of involvement as I find it also very difficult to completely step out of the project.
08:47:44 * gjanssens feels kind of odd realizing 4.1 was the first release in over 10 years in which he was not involved at all
08:49:42 <gjanssens> We'll see what the new balance will be. I will probably unsubscribe from the user mailing list. It currently costs me too much energy following that and defending design choices, handling complaints.
08:50:18 <gjanssens> I may also switch to only occasionally appear on irc (like now).
08:54:30 <chris> hope you had a great vacation!
08:54:49 <chris> where did you end up?
08:56:39 * chris will imminently have fewer cycles available for hacking... and will probably be able to check irc at all hours for next few weeks
08:56:49 * chris will imminently have fewer cycles available for hacking... and will probably be able to check irc at random hours for next few weeks
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09:46:31 <gjanssens> We were one week in France and one in Germany.
09:46:49 <gjanssens> Places that could be reached easily with our own car.
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13:26:56 <jralls> gjanssens, welcome back!
13:28:32 <jralls> gjanssens, it's been apparent for some time that you haven't really had much time for GnuCash.
13:28:43 <gjanssens> True
13:29:14 <gjanssens> Though I have been trying to ignore that for some time
13:29:29 <gjanssens> Unfortunately I now realize that has caused me more stress than is good for me :(
13:30:15 <gjanssens> So I'm searching for a new balance of involvement.
13:30:22 <gjanssens> Don't know yet how that will be.
13:32:03 <jralls> Time management can be difficult. I often feel pulled in several directions at once.
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13:36:32 <jralls> I'd planned to discuss with you the schedule for 5.0. Do you want to participate in that?
13:39:06 <gjanssens> Sure
13:42:38 <jralls> ISTM we compressed 4.0 a bit too ambitiously, especially since 3.0 turned out to be pretty unstable because of the rushed gtk3 migration. Fortunately 4.0 seems to be much better, but I think that 30 months we ended up with on 4.0 would be a better planning goal than the 24 we started with.
13:45:53 <jralls> OTOH that would put us at the winter solstice holidays in 2022. I think that makes it harder to get beta testers--already difficult--and to find time to fix what they find. Spring 2023 seems a safer target.
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13:59:47 <gjanssens> So you would propose to go for a 3-year development cycle for 5.0 ?
14:00:58 <gjanssens> My contribution perspectives at the start of the 4.0 cycle were different than what they are now, so I think that would be ok.
14:01:15 <gjanssens> Hmm, it's not exactly 3 years.
14:01:34 <gjanssens> Spring 2023 sounds like a good timing
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14:02:05 <gjanssens> I agree we'll be more likely to have beta testers in that area rather than winter solstice holidays
14:02:28 <jralls> Not quite, but if it works we can go to 30 months per cycle after that and avoid the winter holidays.
14:02:56 <jralls> Sorry, "not quite" was for the 3-year dev cycle...
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14:15:24 <jralls> I'll do a 5.0 release sked for 5.0 in spring 2023 then. Do you want to propose any goals, considering that you probably won't have time for substantial development?
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15:36:06 <gjanssens> jralls: I won't propose any goals indeed... My personal goals in case I do find time will be more on the technical front.
15:36:48 <gjanssens> Things like cleanups in the build system or more C++ stuff
15:37:33 <gjanssens> I do enjoy digging deeper in modern C++ so I may be able to contribute bits here and there in that area.
15:38:12 <gjanssens> I have found that my current time schedule doesn't work well with issues that require user feedback.
15:38:53 <gjanssens> I typically have time for small bursts of coding. However if that requires user input my availability window is usually closed by the time I get an answer.
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15:40:25 <gjanssens> Getting back into the original issue and interpreting user feedback in that context on the next time slot turns out to be very tiresome.
15:40:37 <gjanssens> Oh well, I don't want to sound negative though.
15:41:29 <gjanssens> Life is good, but my attention is currently required elsewhere (we are planning on building a new house for example :)
15:43:05 <gjanssens> Time to go. Good night!
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16:33:01 <frakturfreak> jralls: Not a goal, but it would be nice if 735408 would be fixed.
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17:17:07 <jralls> frakturfreak, I think it is already. Have you tried in 4.1?
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