2020-07-11 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:57:03 <chris> jralls hope I got it right
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06:54:15 <chris> jralls hope I got it right
06:54:18 <chris> oops
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11:21:26 <fell> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/build-logs/maint/2020-07/build-maint-2020-07-11-03-01-02.log: *** Error during phase configure of gnucash-git: ########## Error running cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/c/gcdev64/gnucash/maint/inst -DCMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR=lib -G Ninja -DCMAKE_FIND_ROOT_PATH=$MSYS2ROOT -DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=$MSYS2ROOT -DPERL_EXECUTABLE=/usr/bin/perl -DGNC_DBD_DIR=$PREFIX/lib/dbd -DGTEST_ROOT=$SRCROOT/
11:21:28 <fell> googletest/googletest -DGMOCK_ROOT=$SRCROOT/googletest/googlemock -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug /c/gcdev64/gnucash/maint/src/gnucash-git *** [14/16]
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12:24:20 <chris> recent srfi-9 changes are all about guile-future-proofing
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12:49:31 <jralls> fell: Fixed moduleset and started a new maint build on the build VM.
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13:54:20 <fell> Thanks, jralls!
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15:06:29 <dnbNCoffee1> hi guys. should I be able to print to my printer directly from a report? All I see is Print to File and Print to LPR when attempting to print. Yet I can see my HP printer in other apps and print successfully.
15:12:59 <dnbNCoffee1> can GNUcash be setup to use CUPS to print?
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15:25:12 <jralls> dnbN
15:25:26 <jralls> dnbNCoffee: What OS?
15:27:46 <dnbNCoffee2> hi jralls. Linux Mint
15:28:18 <dnbNCoffee2> v4.03 flatpak installation.
15:28:19 <jralls> flatpak?
15:28:44 <jralls> Crossed. You probably need to configure your flatpak to have access to the printer.
15:28:59 <dnbNCoffee2> hmm ok. never thought of that layer
15:29:04 <dnbNCoffee2> ok let me look into it
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15:33:31 <dnbNCoffee2> and thanks for the answer jralls
15:33:44 <jralls> no and good luck.
15:33:56 <jralls> s/no/np/
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17:07:02 <fell> fdnbNCoffee2, see also: flatpak override
17:21:16 <fell> and https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions.html
17:23:41 <jralls> fell would it be practical to include a default sandbox config in the flatpak? We have a lot of users tripping over not being able to access resources.
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17:26:15 <fell> I was also thinking about it. Gjanssens already added pcsc support, IIRC.
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17:29:09 <fell> but something is still missing there and the imageviewer workaround is still incomplete.
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17:41:22 <gjanssens> jralls, fell: printing support is handled via portals in flatpak. GtkPrint has implemented this portal support, however webkitgtk hasn't (last time I checked)
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17:41:36 <gjanssens> So printing is still some kind of an issue in flatpak.
17:42:31 <gjanssens> I'm about to leave on holidays for two weeks. I probably won't have much time for gnucash while away...
17:43:03 <gjanssens> Oh, as for printing - the portal issue is why printing checks does work and printing reports doesn't.
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17:44:43 <jralls> Hmm. Doesn't webkitgtk just call gtk_print_operation? Is the webkit in flatpak statically linked?
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17:58:29 <fell> Where the toolkit is broken, one could use the portal directly: https://flatpak.github.io/xdg-desktop-portal/portal-docs.html
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18:01:06 <jralls> I think we'd have to patch webkitgtk for that to work. We just tell the webkitgtkwebview to print the document.
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18:40:57 <dnbNCoffee1> hey jralls, which distro of linux are you guys focusing on for your development?
18:42:31 <jralls> Debian/Ubuntu and Fedora because with very few exceptions (OpenSuSE, Slackware, and Gentoo) everything else derives from one or the other of them.
18:43:34 <jralls> Oh, Arch is the other one that isn't derivative. We use that for our bleeding-edge CI because, well, they do bleeding edge more than anyone else.
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19:12:01 <dnbNCoffee2> ok thanks
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19:38:56 <dnbNCoffee2> for debian, any desktop environment in particular? my laptop has low resources so am looking at LXDE
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19:40:54 <fell> dnbNCoffee2: Our GUI is in GTK like Gnome.
19:40:57 <jralls> I think I'm the only one using debian (aside from CI, which uses Ubuntu because that's easy with TravisCI) and I always use the default Gnome Desktop because it's the easiest to set up in the half-dozen VMs I have for cross-checking stuff.
19:41:57 <jralls> You might ask on the user list if anyone has experience with a low-resource desktop.
19:42:06 <dnbNCoffee2> ok. with mint i keep running out of RAM. i forgot LXDE merged into LXQT. I had debian LXQT before this install. Going to go back to that
19:43:19 <jralls> But if RAM is the issue you might be screwed. GnuCash is a big program.
19:44:54 <fell> Eight Megabytes Always Continous Swaping (EMAcS)
19:44:58 <fell> ;-)
19:45:38 <jralls> fell, surely gigabytes. 8 meg of ram is so 1990s.
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19:46:49 <fell> That was on a super mini in the 80's
19:47:30 <jralls> As in a big vax?
19:47:43 <fell> Pr1Me
19:48:16 <jralls> Oh, we had one of those at Supship Groton. I wouldn't call anything about it "super". :-/
19:48:57 <jralls> No, wait, the prime was at IMP. It *was* OK. The thing at SoSG was a Datapoint.
19:49:45 <jralls> Well, the prime was OK except that it ran a rather arcane hierarchical database.
19:50:42 <fell> MIDAS?
19:50:52 <dnbNCoffee2> with lxqt i can still install GTK for gnucash and others.
19:51:09 <jralls> fell, don't remember.
19:52:28 <jralls> dnbNCoffee2, there's a difference between install and run if ram is tight. That's doubly true if you've got all of KDE running too.
19:53:54 <jralls> You're probably better off with one of the super-lightweight desktops: http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-lightweight-linux-desktop-environments
19:54:25 <dnbNCoffee2> fair enough. granted i wasn't running gnucash when i was on lxqt. i can try and worst case, I can try xfce then
19:54:52 <dnbNCoffee2> yeah, xfce listed as #1 on that site.
19:55:10 <jralls> Ah, LXQT is in there, it's written in Qt without KDE. But Qt isn't exactly small.
19:57:01 <jralls> Aside from the desktop you'll also want to turn off as many services as you can.
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20:05:21 <dnbNCoffee2> yeah my previous install was bare min debian + Lxqt. right now with Mint I am at 1.1GB of used ram with just HEX app open
20:09:27 <jralls> That might just be bloat from a newer Linux. You might consider a stripped-down distro, here's a list: https://opensource.com/article/19/6/linux-distros-to-try
20:13:38 <dnbNCoffee2> thanks
20:16:49 <dnbNCoffee2> this macbook air has 4GB. I might be ok with lxqt or xfce.
20:18:05 <jralls> 4G should be enough for any main-line distro. Several of my VMs run fine on 4G.
20:25:34 <dnbNCoffee2> on that note, off to reformat. thanks for your help guys
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