2020-07-10 GnuCash IRC logs
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12:24:22 <giuseppef> hi all, can anyone check if I did what expected to do, to pull request for italian translation?
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13:02:16 <fell> Bon giorno, giuseppef. I will test it now.
13:03:41 <giuseppef> thanks
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13:13:45 <fell> it.po:15095: in msgstr manca il carattere "_" per l'acceleratore da tastiera
13:13:46 <fell> it.po:21324: in msgstr manca il carattere "_" per l'acceleratore da tastiera
13:21:02 <fell> In translator-credits I would prefer the most recent (=you) first.
13:21:45 <giuseppef> fixed 15095 21324
13:28:49 <fell> Ah, I would reverse the order of line 5-10 of the file and after that also copy the other translators from there into the translator-credits.
13:32:38 <fell> If you like you can also move line 45ff "Thanks for the reviews …" into translator-credits.
13:35:41 <fell> Minor: line 43 is missing a full stop. ;-)
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13:38:09 <fell> 865: "Congratulazioni! i…" uppercase?
13:44:48 <fell> "nome_completo" would now be one word instead of two.
13:46:19 <giuseppef> for "nome_completo" it seems to be oneword in original string (this was way I didn't used keyb accelerator)
13:47:03 <giuseppef> 21323 21324
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13:48:38 <fell> you can remove line 31968ff. That are old messages.
13:51:41 <fell> in 7798 you explain «nome completo», then the labeel should be "nome _completo"
13:54:09 <giuseppef> I think those are just column headers. (I cannot see it in 7798)
13:57:30 <fell> see it in File->Export->CSV
14:01:38 <giuseppef> so, should I remove all strings starting with #~ (at the end of file)?
14:03:47 <fell> No, you are right, it is the exception mentioned in https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation#Special_characters_and_other_tips
14:04:23 <fell> I thought I had removed it. Have to check later.
14:06:45 <fell> So I would assume some CSV importers could fail, if the colomn name constists of more than one word.
14:07:26 <giuseppef> ok, please post here if you have other suggestion, and send me a mail (or a message) if you want me to add a "Thanks to you" in the file. I will submit an updated version in a couple of hours
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14:17:14 <fell> No thanks, that is already covered by https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/AUTHORS#L12
14:18:42 <fell> If you know enough git, you can squash your commits and force push your PR branch.
14:28:34 <fell> guiseppef, something else: can you also update po/glossary/it.po from your leading comment section?
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17:11:02 <giuseppef> fell: are you asking me to invert contributors order in comments in po/glossaru/it.po or something else?
17:16:12 <fell> guiseppef, IMHO you are more interested in the last translator (and copyright holder). The others are more of historical interest. S I would always use the reverse historical order.
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17:24:06 <giuseppef> fell, telle if this is right, please:
17:24:11 <giuseppef> # GnuCash Glossary - Italian version
17:24:12 <giuseppef> # Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
17:24:12 <giuseppef> # Giuseppe Foti <foti.giuseppe@gmail.com>, 2020.
17:24:12 <giuseppef> # Cristian Marchi <cri79@libero.it>, 2008;
17:24:12 <giuseppef> # Lorenzo Cappelletti <lorenzo.cappelletti@email.it>, 2003;
17:24:14 <giuseppef> # Lorenzo Cappelletti <L.Cappelletti@mail.com>, 2002 2003;
17:24:16 <giuseppef> # Alessandro Seveso <aleseveso@tiscalinet.it>, 2002;
17:25:10 <giuseppef> Should I use "# Copyright (C) 2002" or 2020, and is it copyright of FSF?
17:26:18 <giuseppef> (ok, in the list, I have seen error in colon and full stop)
17:29:01 <fell> If I create a fresh glossary the header is:
17:29:04 <fell> # Latin translations for PROJECT package. (Glossary)
17:29:06 <fell> # Copyright (C) 2020 THE PROJECT'S COPYRIGHT HOLDER
17:29:07 <fell> # This file is distributed under the same license as the GnuCash package.
17:29:09 <fell> # Frank H. Ellenberger <frank.h.ellenberger@gmail.com>, 2020.
17:29:10 <fell> #
17:29:12 <fell> m
17:30:29 <fell> If you like you can adjust yours.
17:31:03 <giuseppef> thanks, but I didn't create a fresh glossary, I just update the old one. What I don't understand is why it is reported as copyright of FSF
17:31:32 <Simon> "(C)" has no legal significance whatsoever
17:31:49 <fell> In very old versions of gettext it was hard-coded.
17:34:13 <giuseppef> ok, I will update the comment
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17:37:07 <fell> Ah, and it seems Lorenzo was a member of tp@lists.linux.it
17:37:33 <giuseppef> so what should I do?
17:40:26 <fell> I am no advocat, perhaps add a 2020 (C) and move the SF (C) at the end?
17:40:41 <giuseppef> Do you think, this could go:
17:40:43 <giuseppef> # Italian translation for GnuCash package (Glossary)
17:40:43 <giuseppef> # Copyright (C) 2020 Giuseppe Foti <foti.giuseppe@gmail.com>.
17:40:43 <giuseppef> # This file is distributed under the same license as the GnuCash package.
17:40:43 <giuseppef> # Giuseppe Foti <foti.giuseppe@gmail.com>, 2020.
17:40:44 <giuseppef> #
17:40:46 <giuseppef> # Contributors:
17:40:48 <giuseppef> # Cristian Marchi <cri79@libero.it>, 2008;
17:40:50 <giuseppef> # Lorenzo Cappelletti <lorenzo.cappelletti@email.it>, 2003;
17:40:52 <giuseppef> # Lorenzo Cappelletti <L.Cappelletti@mail.com>, 2002 2003;
17:40:54 <giuseppef> # Alessandro Seveso <aleseveso@tiscalinet.it>, 2002.
17:41:40 <fell> yep
17:51:17 <giuseppef> I forced push my branch and sent a pull request. Please, check if everything is fine
17:55:35 <fell> @tell gjanssens jralls, warlord: I've read https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/. We can either fill https://hosted.weblate.org/hosting/ (they have already https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/) or search another hoster. Or set up like https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/admin/install/venv-redhat.html or https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/admin/install/docker.html#quick-docker.
17:55:35 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
17:58:56 <fell> thanks, will do.
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18:00:05 <dnbNCoffee> good afternoon all
18:01:04 <dnbNCoffee> I am tinkering with the Budget function for the first time. I have created a budget to align with my paychecks (1 every 2 weeks). As I scroll through the year (to the right), is there a way to Freeze the Account column so that I can see which account line I am on?
18:03:01 <jralls> fell, When I looked at the weblate pricing page last week they had a column for gratis hosting of open-source projects. Now it's gone. We'll need https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/vcs.html#vcs-github to make PRs instead of direct pushes and that seems to require a custom server config.
18:04:15 <jralls> dnbNCoffee, dunno. chris is the one who's been working on that lately.
18:05:21 <fell> jralls after I logged in there I got this form, where they ask the lagal stuff to get accepted as a foss projact.
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18:08:58 <jralls> fell, OK. I wonder why they changed the web page.
18:10:46 <fell> No it is still there but better hidden. ;)
18:11:54 <fell> And somewhere I saw, what I think would be our process: manually pull from weblate, review, push to code.
18:13:30 <fell> And the modules can be enabled in the webinterface, too.
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18:20:41 <fell> guiseppef: glossary: 193 translated messages, 1 fuzzy translation, 1 untranslated message.
18:25:05 <fell> therest seems OK
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18:42:48 <fell> jralls the quickfill fix does not resolve bug 797839, too?
18:51:53 <jralls> fell, thanks for the reminder.
18:58:12 <fell> When I did a test run with 'LANG=hr_HR.utf-8 gnucash' on the console the version info is in German, only Finance::Quote is reportted in croatian.
19:14:57 <jralls> fell, did you remember to set LANGUAGES=hr?
19:15:29 <fell> jralls I never set LANGUAGES
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19:16:41 <jralls> IIRC our code, unlike Gtk, doesn't pass LANG or LC_MESSAGES to gettext so you need set LANGUAGES.
19:17:19 <fell> It should not be required. except for overrides
19:19:22 <jralls> Why do you think that?
19:21:38 <fell> after reading the gettext docs.
19:21:55 <fell> I tried now LANGUAGE="yi:lb:fy:nl" LANG=hr_HR.utf-8 gnucash
19:23:42 <fell> got version info still in german, FQ in english; the GUI in hr, new file with LANG=en_GB (template and currency) and language hr
19:26:57 <jralls> Are $LC_ALL or $LC_MESSAGES set in your environment?
19:28:09 <fell> or more precise the left side of the assistant is in dutch and the right side in croatian, but on the en_GB directory
19:29:23 <fell> I never set them manually
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19:30:27 <fell> empty
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19:49:32 <jralls> Just tested on F31 after sudo dnf install langpacks-hr and unsetting LC_MESSAGES and LC_CTYPE with a freshly-built maint. LANG=hr_HR.UTF-8 gnucash seems to provide everything in Croatian except that the locale for the account templates defaults to en_US.
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19:54:29 <jralls> If I also set LANGUAGE=de:fr I get the UI in German, the default currency is still Croatian, the default locale is en_US, but the account selections and account tree are all in Croatian.
19:54:39 <jralls> And that's it for tonight.
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