2020-07-04 GnuCash IRC logs

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06:34:59 <chris> gjanssens: running with file-to-load as "--" should load gnc_history_get_last() wdyt
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09:36:11 <gjanssens> chris: why do you think so ?
09:36:59 <gjanssens> In posix '--' is used as separator between options and positional parameters if there can be ambiguity.
09:37:24 <gjanssens> However if you don't want to specify an input file, there simply shouldn't be one on the command line.
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09:37:57 <gjanssens> Perhaps gnucash-cli does not accept a non-file ?
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09:38:31 <gjanssens> We may want to change that then, though I'm not sure I would want that on a command line tool.
09:39:07 <gjanssens> (I meant gnucash-cli may complain if no file is explicitly passed as command line parameter)
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09:39:58 <gjanssens> In fact thinking this through it seems unsafe to have gncuash-cli default to the last opened file by default.
09:40:11 <gjanssens> Imagine the case of trying to update price-quotes.
09:40:27 <gjanssens> That's something that's typically done by some automated process.
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09:41:29 <gjanssens> And imagine the user has multiple files, does not set an explicit input file in the automation and then goes on opening the other files at random in gnucash for normal accounting.
09:42:11 <gjanssens> Which file will have its price quotes updated in the end ? That's hard to tell and needs additional verification by the user.
09:42:46 <gjanssens> Same for running reports. Just assuming the last file is the one you want may result in unfortunate mistakes.
09:43:09 <gjanssens> Another example: suppose you're on a deadline to file your taxes.
09:43:45 <gjanssens> You're running the tax report on the command line, but find an oddity in the results.
09:44:18 <gjanssens> As it's not clear where the error might be, you open up a backup file to look at previous results.
09:44:38 <gjanssens> (And you do this with your current file still open)
09:44:47 <gjanssens> That will make the backup file the most recent one.
09:44:54 <chris> gjanssens: ok point taken. I was thinking in terms of exploration and trying different reports interactively rather than from scripts
09:45:17 <gjanssens> And want to avoid long typing?
09:45:22 <chris> :) yes
09:45:46 <gjanssens> Then use some scripting magic: i=<path/to/my/book>
09:45:54 <gjanssens> gnucash-cli <options> $i
09:46:05 <gjanssens> $i is two characters, just like --
09:46:47 <chris> ok fair
09:46:56 <gjanssens> You can so something similar on Windows, I believe variables are written as %i% over there.
09:47:02 <gjanssens> Though I'd have to look it up.
09:48:17 <gjanssens> GTG again...
09:48:26 <chris> np
10:11:05 <fell> perhaps you should start https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GnuCash-cli with 1. documentation, 2. future ideas, ...
10:12:00 <fell> Does GnuCash 4.0 still support Windows 8?
10:12:45 <fell> i am currently reviewing all the messed up links on www.
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10:46:50 <gjanssens> fell: according to https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet Microsoft will support Windows 8.1 until 2023. So in theory we do as well although none of the devs has a Windows 8 box as far as I know.
10:47:18 <gjanssens> So Windows 8 specific bugs will likely go unfixed as unreproducable.
10:50:56 <fell> and our build requirements do not prohibit it, gjanssens?
10:54:24 <gjanssens> No
10:55:27 <gjanssens> Unless one of our dependencies (like gtk or aqbanking) declare Windows 8 unsuported or would fail to build on it.
10:56:57 <chris> My work PC is Win7 and runs 3.10 quite happily
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11:13:02 <gjanssens> chris: sure, though "Runs fine on" is not the same as "Supported". The former is a prerequisite of the latter, but not the other way around.
11:13:29 <gjanssens> If at some point we make a change that cause gnucash to no longer run on Windows 7, we will not try to fix it.
11:14:06 <gjanssens> If that happens on Windows 8 we will probably try, provided we can figure out the issue.
11:14:06 <chris> oh sure
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11:24:54 <chris> fewell's UX tiny-checkbox issue remains eg 'hidden/taxrelated/placeholder' in edit account window
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12:04:33 <finster> hello all. i'm going crazy. why does gnucash (4.0.2, OSX) insist on keeping capitalization of a previous split? say I have a booking entry with title FOOD, then i cannot for the life of me add a new booking entry that reads Food
12:05:08 <finster> Even when copy/pasting the capitalized version, gnucash autocorrects it into all-caps
12:07:21 <finster> Okay, workakround: Set Fod as description for the booking entry, then insert another o at the 3rd position
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12:53:36 <jralls> finster, the quickfill has always been case insensitive. A faster work-around: Keep typing the whole description and add a space at the end to break the match, then backspace to remove the space. The contrary works as well: If you have a transaction that you want to fill in the same way but with a different description, tab out to accept the quickfill then tab back and change the description; the rest of the quickfill copy is unchanged.
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14:08:21 <fell> I think I fixed the download links in https://www.gnucash.org/{index|download}.phtml. Any comments?
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14:39:27 <jralls> fell: Thanks for the unstable fix. It should be MacOS rather than macOS. Technically 10.9 was still OS X, so we should perhaps say "Apple MacOS >= OS X 10.9" though that's a bit cumbersome.
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15:21:08 <fell> https://support.apple.com/macos and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS both have the first 3 chars in lowercase
15:29:42 <jralls> Dang, you're right. OK.
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