2020-06-03 GnuCash IRC logs

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09:17:55 <emma> I have a problem when trying to download account turnover from my bank. the aqbanking part seems to be successfukl
09:19:45 <emma> there are messages like "SWIFT-Dokument erfolgreich importiert" (SWIFT-Document successfully imported) and "Buchung wird hinzugefügt" (booking is added).
09:20:58 <emma> but in the end, I get the error message "Fehler beim Ausführen des Vorgangs" (Error while processing action) "Status: rejected (5)"
09:21:40 <emma> no bookings are added to the gnucash account
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09:30:28 <emma> I have a problem when trying to download account turnover from my bank. the aqbanking part seems to be successfull
09:30:34 <emma> there are messages like "SWIFT-Dokument erfolgreich importiert" (SWIFT-Document successfully imported) and "Buchung wird hinzugefügt" (booking is added).
09:30:38 <emma> but in the end, I get the error message "Fehler beim Ausführen des Vorgangs" (Error while processing action) "Status: rejected (5)"
09:30:42 <emma> no bookings are added to the gnucash account
09:37:11 <warlord> hi emma. First, we did hear you the first time ;)
09:37:29 <warlord> second, I think fell of gjanssens (who isn't online) will need to help you with that.
09:37:36 <warlord> fell OR gjanssens
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09:49:50 <emma> thx - thought I was silenced because i did not register... sorry!!!
09:49:57 <warlord> it's okay.
09:50:07 <fell> Hallo Emma
09:50:16 <emma> hi
09:50:22 <warlord> We used to have the channel moderated when we were getting major spamage. The spammers went away so we turned off moderation to help our users.
09:50:33 <fell> Gnucash und Aqbanking version?
09:51:23 <emma> gnucash 3.10 (flatpak)
09:51:44 <emma> aqbanking 5.7.8-3
09:52:07 <emma> (debian buster)
09:52:51 <fell> Sprichst du deutsch?
09:52:54 <emma> ja
09:57:36 <fell> Tschuldigung, telefon.
09:58:28 <fell> aqbanking 5.7.8-3 ist wohl von debian, aber im Flatpak, sollte was neueres sein
09:59:06 <emma> kann sein :)
10:00:18 <emma> ich benutze sqlite-format, weiss nicht, ob das relevant sein koennte. Bank ist gls
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10:04:31 <fell> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Feedback#Verwendete_Versionen
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10:06:52 <emma> i am back now - client was not reacting anymore
10:07:36 <emma> ich benutze sqlite-format, die bank ist GLS
10:07:50 <fell> Mir wären keine Probleme mit Fiduca-GAD, dem Dienstleiter der Genossenschaftsbanken bekann.
10:08:24 <emma> das aqbanking funktioniert ja anscheinend auch, der import scheint irgendwie fehlzuschlagen, oder?
10:09:47 <fell> Oh, ich hatte in deiner Abwesenheit gefragt: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Feedback#Verwendete_Versionen
10:12:32 <fell> Emma, magst du mal https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Flatpak#Testversion_von_Gnucash.org ausprobieren?
10:13:52 <fell> Es gab da mal einen ähnlichen Fehler der kürzlich behoben wurde.
10:16:06 <emma> ja , mach ich...
10:18:10 <emma> gnucash-maint-C3.10-77-g76015bd0b-D3.10-12-g31c13e6.flatpakref vom 3. Juni?
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10:20:32 <fell> zum Beispiel
10:20:56 <fell> das ist die neueste stabile.
10:28:19 <emma>
10:28:29 <emma> a
10:28:48 <emma> Version: 3.10
10:28:48 <emma> Build ID: git 3.10-77-g76015bd0b+(2020-05-31)
10:28:49 <emma> Finance::Quote: 1.49
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10:29:58 <emma> es kommt immer noch der selbe fehler
10:30:46 <emma> im verlaufsfenster kommt "Data imported, transforming to transactions"
10:31:12 <emma> danach "Buchung wird hinzugefügt"
10:31:36 <emma> "AqHBCI abgeschlossen"
10:31:54 <emma> erst danach die besagte fehlermeldung in einem Fensterchen
10:33:46 <fell> Aber das ist noch eine Meldung von Aqbanking oder Gnucash?
10:34:32 <emma> kann ich nicht erkennen, vermute aber startk, dass es gnucash ist, weil die Meldung nicht im Verlaufsfenster auftaucht!?!
10:36:01 <emma> per hand kann ich buchungen in das konto eintragen
10:37:51 <emma> falls das irgendwie sinn macht, könnte ich nochmal mit gnucash-dateiformat testen (statt mit sqlite-format). bei sqlite müssten buchungen ja sofort erscheinen
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10:41:01 <emma> @66656c6c3a207669656c656e2064616e6b2066ffffffc3ffffffbc722064656e20737570706f72742e20696368206d757373206c656964657220766f6d20726563686e6572207765672c206c61737365206461732066656e7374657220616265722061756620756e6420736368617565206865757465206e6f63682065696e6d616c207265696e2e20616e736f6e7374656e206d656c646520696368206d696368206d6f7267656e2077696564657221
10:41:01 <gncbot> emma: Error: "66656c6c3a207669656c656e2064616e6b2066ffffffc3ffffffbc722064656e20737570706f72742e20696368206d757373206c656964657220766f6d20726563686e6572207765672c206c61737365206461732066656e7374657220616265722061756620756e6420736368617565206865757465206e6f63682065696e6d616c207265696e2e20616e736f6e7374656e206d656c646520696368206d696368206d6f7267656e2077696564657221" is not a valid command.
10:41:26 <emma> fell: vielen dank für den support. ich muss leider vom rechner weg, lasse das fenster aber auf und schaue heute noch einmal rein. ansonsten melde ich mich morgen wieder
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10:50:44 <fell> Emma, ich weiß jetzt auch nicht genau, ob du erstmal auf der Mailingliste gnucash-de oder aqbanking-user nachfragst.
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10:52:43 <fell> Idealerweise mit anonymisieren logs (Zugangsdaten ausXen)
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13:47:22 <warlord> fell, jralls -- hopefully you can reply to my -devel email, as you two are affected directly.
13:47:56 <warlord> @tell gjanssens when you get the chance could you reply to my -devel email because it affects you directly (access to win32 builder console)
13:47:56 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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13:57:53 <fell> warlord: 1) everytime without a running build job is fine.
13:58:35 <fell> 2) your morning time would be less invasive.
13:59:01 <warlord> Automated builds start at 1am local time, so it would only be builds run by hand by you all. And the first reboot would only stop you from accessing the console, but wouldn't stop a running build
13:59:16 <warlord> really? morning ET is mid-day for you in CET
13:59:32 <warlord> whereas 8pm ET is 2am CET
13:59:42 <warlord> (I know YOU happen to be a night-owl)
14:00:30 <fell> Most activity is in CET evening time.
14:02:06 <warlord> the other reason I like evening is that my backups run from 1am and usually end around 6pm. Althogh there is a window in the AM when the backup is doing a cleanup and I could reboot then
14:08:58 <fell> I looked in mailing lists and wiki: most activity is in CET afternoon and evening. Only our australian owls are active in CET morning time. ;-)
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14:11:54 <warlord> Okay. So maybe I'll plan the reboot for Sunday morning.
14:12:26 <warlord> (the host reboot -- the engine VM reboot only affects you, jralls, gjanssens, and myself, and can happen any time)
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14:50:28 <emma> fell, i'll write to the mailing list - thx for everything :)
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14:55:19 <Mechtilde> fell did you read the mail at German list from 20:36 CEST?
14:55:43 <Mechtilde> about the "flickr"
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15:04:36 <fell> Mechtilde: Not under the shower. ;-)
15:06:33 <Mechtilde> ok then later :)
15:08:44 <fell> I hope, Ingo will take it up.
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15:24:53 <fell> Mechtilde: e.g. 'aq* --opticaltan=gwenview' does not help?
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15:34:36 <Mechtilde> I don't know
15:34:45 <Mechtilde> It is to late today to test it
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15:49:32 <dtux> i have been using gnucash 3.10.1 on my macbook pro, but i just got a new linux (ubuntu-based) laptop, and only 3.8 is available. is it safe to open my books with the older version?
15:49:32 <gncbot> dtux: Sent 4 weeks, 1 day, 6 hours, and 1 minute ago: <chris> your budget amount signs questions are currently in flux and being bug-fixed
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17:15:00 <fell> dtux: should be save. But you can also use https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak.
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18:33:54 <dtux> fell: i noticed that the flatpak is way larger than the .deb... idk much about flatpak, i'll have to look into it. ty
18:35:06 <fell> dtux: because it contains recent versions of all dependencies.
18:40:50 <warlord> dtux, flatpak is a full application with all dependencies. It's a full self-contained thing. You don't want to run a flatpak unless you absolutely need to.
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19:27:57 <fell> Why warlord? I know apps, which only ship flatpak or the corresponding KDE thing.
19:29:03 <fell> BTW the whole Gnome stuff only gets installed once for all Flatpak apps.
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19:47:19 <dtux> warlord: ya, curious if that's just because of filesize or other reasons too?
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20:37:24 <warlord> fell, could be, but most likely people only have one or two apps installed, not a whole OS.
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21:20:29 <fell> Warlord, to get an impression about flatpak's modules have look at the flatpak update ouput in https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Tips.
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