2020-05-23 GnuCash IRC logs
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04:02:40 <chris> .
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05:31:07 <chris> anyone can confirm if master's piecharts are very broken?
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08:03:47 <gjanssens> chris: did you run make/ninja install and run from the installation directory ?
08:04:01 <gjanssens> It's known to be broken when starting from the build directory
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08:09:41 <chris_> I meant the piechart is broken. income/expense piechart will offer averaging function which is IMHO silly. shows $0 when it is selected.
08:09:48 <chris_> I meant the piechart is broken. income/expense piechart will offer averaging function which is IMHO silly. shows $0 when it is selected.
08:09:51 <chris_> I meant the piechart is broken. income/expense piechart will offer averaging function which is IMHO silly. shows $0 when it is selected.
08:09:53 <chris_> I meant the piechart is broken. income/expense piechart will offer averaging function which is IMHO silly. shows $0 when it is selected.
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08:10:28 <chris> oops
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08:39:48 <gjanssens> Ok, that's something else then :)
08:40:26 <gjanssens> jralls: yesterday's master fails to build on Windows for me.
08:41:13 <gjanssens> I completely removed c:\gcdev64\gnucash\master and reran setup-mingw64.ps1
08:42:01 <gjanssens> After the usual xmlsec failure (which seems to resolve itself when rerunning the build) it now consistently fails while linking bdw-gc
08:45:41 <gjanssens> I get tons of duplicate symbol errors.
08:45:48 <gjanssens> The full output is here: https://pastebin.com/m6EXpDDf
08:47:00 <gjanssens> I'll likely be afk before you come online (and I'll be afk until at least Tuesday), but I post it here anyway wondering if you ran into this as well.
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09:38:01 <fell> gjanssens, but it was built on https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/master/?C=M;O=D
09:39:21 <gjanssens> fell: sure. It may well be that works because it wasn't done from a fully clean environment or it may be that this is only on Windows 7
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09:43:43 <fell> gjanssens, You are ofte building in 'detached HEAD' state?
09:44:11 <gjanssens> Nope, it's in an open VM session.
09:51:45 <fell> It starts with 'git clone git://github.com/ivmai/bdwgc -b gc7_6_0', but then "switching to '8ac1d84a40eb7a431fec1b8097e3f24b48fb23fa'."
09:51:52 <fell> Was that intended?
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09:56:22 <fell> I see no branch gc7_6_0 there.
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09:57:19 <fell> only a release-7_6
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10:13:03 <fell> Ah, gc7_6_0 is a tag.
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11:38:13 <jralls> gjanssens, no, I haven't seen that. I did clean both the maint and master build trees on the build VM last week to get the single-threaded guile going... and there hasn't been a hang since. But both that and my primary Win VM are Win10. I'll fire up the Win7 VM and give it a try.
11:40:27 <gjanssens> jralls: I had one hang yesterday while updating mingw (when running setup_mingw64.ps1) and had to kill it
11:40:48 <gjanssens> Perhaps that corrupted my install. I'm now reinstalling msys from scratch to see if that makes a difference
11:41:22 <gjanssens> Given the current download speeds this probably won't finish until after I'm afk.
11:41:34 <jralls> Not the hang I mean. I mean guile hangs while compiling Gnucash scm files.
11:41:55 <gjanssens> I did get that ;)
11:42:07 <gjanssens> I was just trying to clarify where my potential issue could be.
11:43:02 <jralls> Was your hang yesterday while running pacman -Syuu?
11:43:16 <gjanssens> I believe so yes
11:43:30 <gjanssens> It was in the postprocessing step
11:44:16 <gjanssens> While I have your attention and I still have a few minutes left -
11:44:34 <gjanssens> I'm looking at our startup code
11:44:42 <gjanssens> In particular the locale setup
11:45:22 <gjanssens> I see you have written it such that on MacOS and Windows setlocale is called before the environment file is parsed
11:45:24 <jralls> That's actually normal when it upgrades the system libraries. You're supposed to kill the MSYS2 terminal session. In theory setup_minw64.ps1 should detect it and re-run pacman, but sometimes it doesn't. When that happens you should do so manually after setup_mingw64 finishes.
11:45:59 <gjanssens> I did that. And afterwards I had the gc linker errors
11:46:31 <gjanssens> As for the environment file, doesn't that mean users on Windows and MacOS can't set LANG and LANGUAGE in the environment file ?
11:46:47 <gjanssens> Well, they can, but won't that be ignored then ?
11:47:25 <jralls> Sorry, I didn't follow the context switch. What about the environment file?
11:47:40 <gjanssens> Yeah, sorry for that switch
11:47:57 <gjanssens> I see in gnucash-bin.c both Windows and MacOS will setlocale before the environment file is parsed
11:48:28 <gjanssens> The idea however originally was that users could set LANG and LANGUAGE options in that file to tell gnucash what language to use.
11:48:45 <gjanssens> I wonder if setlocale is called before these parameters are set, won't they then be ignored ?
11:49:01 <gjanssens> Or is LANG handled differently by other tools ?
11:49:12 <gjanssens> I mean by other function calls ?
11:53:04 <jralls> See the commit message in https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/6c7ccbd9e77fd377c8eae97323fbdadd77d3192f.
11:55:35 <gjanssens> Ok, that actually confirms my concern: set_win32_thread_locale is called before the environment file is parsed, yet it checks the values of various environment variables.
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11:56:08 <gjanssens> So it seems to me whatever is set in the environment file (which is supposed to set variables in the current environment) will be too late
11:56:22 <jralls> Right. So that gnc_environment_setup() has the last word.
11:56:34 <gjanssens> Huh ?
11:57:00 <gjanssens> It will set the environment, but will gnucash still switch locale after that ?
11:57:19 <gjanssens> Perhaps I don't understand very well how that works exactly.
11:57:46 <jralls> set_mac_locale() and set_win32_thread_locale() read the user's settings from defaults and the registry respectively. If we process the environement file first they'll replace whatever it has done.
11:57:57 <jralls> We want to do it the other way around.
11:58:26 <jralls> Yes, every call to setlocale() changes the environment settings. It's the last call that matters.
11:58:38 <gjanssens> Ok. That's the part I was missing.
11:59:20 <gjanssens> So set_mac_locale() and set_win32_thread_locale() are really looking for the default system locale and then users can override if they prefer.
11:59:47 <gjanssens> Perhaps these functions can be renamed to set_system_locale for both platforms ?
12:00:00 <gjanssens> Or set_default_system_locale?
12:00:25 <jralls> setlocale also returns a token to the locale that it replaces so e.g. if you have a section of code that needs to execute in the "C" locale you do foo = setlocale(LC_ALL, "");/* the locale-less code*/ setlocale(LC_ALL, foo);
12:00:33 <gjanssens> Related question: do you have objections to move these functions to gnc-locale-utils ?
12:01:20 <gjanssens> Yeah, that's the "save locale dance" we sometimes do indeed.
12:02:45 <gjanssens> I would like to group all locale specific code in one place, so gnc-locale-utils seems like a good home for these functions even if we only need to call them once.
12:02:49 <jralls> I don't really like foo-utils kitchen sink files any more than I like foo-utils directories. If you want to write a GncLocale class with platform subclasses that would be OK.
12:03:21 <gjanssens> Ok, I could look at that.
12:04:28 <gjanssens> Yet another project...
12:04:56 <gjanssens> I'll defer it until after the gnucash-cli work I'd like to see still in gnucash 4.x
12:05:08 <gjanssens> New feature deadline is approaching rapidly :)
12:05:14 <jralls> locale is even worse that usual because we have both gnc-locale-utils.c and a one-function gnc-locale-utils.cpp to create the std::locale.
12:05:34 <gjanssens> Yeah, I saw that...
12:05:38 <jralls> Yes it is.
12:05:46 <gjanssens> I'll see what I can do still
12:06:11 <gjanssens> setup_mingw32 is stuck again
12:06:28 <jralls> I think we really need to switch to ICU for locales. libc locales just don't get it any more.
12:06:29 <gjanssens> This time right after upgrading wget
12:07:00 <jralls> What's actually stuck? Use task manager.
12:07:01 <gjanssens> That should not be too hard as we're already depending on ICU anyway
12:07:31 <jralls> It will be a lot of work, though. We have localization code splattered all over everywhere.
12:07:58 <gjanssens> Tell me about it...
12:08:05 <gjanssens> I'm not sure what's stuck really
12:08:15 <gjanssens> There's hardly anything in there
12:09:03 <gjanssens> What shows a hanging process ?
12:09:14 <gjanssens> All current processes are 0%
12:09:36 <jralls> Right. You're looking for one that shouldn't be.
12:11:40 <gjanssens> There's two conhost.exe, one csrss.exe, dwm.exe, explorer.exe, gpg-agent.exe, powershell.exe, scdaemon.exe, two taskhost.exe's, one taskmgr.exe, one vdagent.exe and one winlogon.exe
12:12:11 <gjanssens> None of these look like anything related to pacman running.
12:12:30 <gjanssens> So it seems pacman has either died or finished
12:13:21 <gjanssens> Anyway that will be for later. I have to leave now.
12:13:29 <jralls> OK.
12:13:29 <gjanssens> Enjoy your day!
12:13:43 <jralls> Have fun, see you Tuesday!
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16:20:50 <CDB-Man_> jralls: checking this out now. what are you referring to with this "resize" problem?
16:21:23 <CDB-Man_> is that regarding Mike Alexander's comment on the dropdowns?
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16:55:54 <jralls> CDB_Man_ If you're referring to the account field, yes.
16:57:05 <jralls> CDB_Man_ Bob-IT noticed that the action field doesn't work.
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18:57:36 <jralls> @tell gjanssens Your fresh build problem was due to MinGW64 upgrading to gcc10.1 and bdwgc having a lot of carelessly declared (no extern) globals.
18:57:36 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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