2020-05-21 GnuCash IRC logs
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09:33:57 <fell> Oh, sorry, the pet.
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09:35:00 <fell> Ithink , the head of the readme should distinguish releases and nightlis
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09:44:30 <CDB-Man> jralls: I'll check out the latest fix this weekend and close the ticket if nothing else, thanks for the update on that ticket
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12:28:31 <jralls> fell, why do you think anyone using the nightlies reads the README?
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12:47:16 <fell> jralls, the other way: The disclaimer is from the time before flatpak releases.
12:48:24 <jralls> What disclaimer?
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12:48:48 <fell> Again: these packages are not release quality for several reasons:
12:51:22 <fell> That would belong below nightlies, but there are also regular flatpak releases in between.
12:52:59 <warlord> fell, the "warning" can go off the flatpaks built on code
12:53:07 <warlord> which is different than the flathub releases.
12:53:09 <jralls> I guess I've got the wrong README. I thought that you meant https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/master/README
12:56:58 <fell> no, https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-on-flatpak/blob/master/README.md
13:05:02 <jralls> OK, now I understand what you're talking about. YesI agree, those disclaimers are no longer true and can be removed. gjanssens?
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13:51:47 <gjanssens> jralls, fell: agreed
13:51:47 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 1 day, 7 hours, and 40 minutes ago: <chris> when running cli reports I'd personally wish for ability to set report options, especially selecting owner or document ID.
13:52:37 <gjanssens> chris: if you want to add many options we'll have to think of a way to manage their interdependencies as well.
13:52:49 <gjanssens> Off again...
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14:56:42 <YeOldHinnerk> hi
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14:56:56 <YeOldHinnerk> I took a bit of a break from gnucash - life interfering...
14:57:23 <YeOldHinnerk> No that I return to gc, I find, that Postbank hbci access isn't working as before.
14:57:34 <YeOldHinnerk> Can anyone coach me on how to set it up?
14:57:46 <YeOldHinnerk> I use the app as tan generator.
14:59:01 <warlord> YeOldHinnerk, what version of gnucash and what OS/Distro?
14:59:24 <jralls> And how long since you last connected to your bank?
14:59:26 <warlord> IIRC, HBCI "changed" and requires a newer version of AqBanking
14:59:39 <jralls> It sure did.
15:00:21 <YeOldHinnerk> 3.10 on windows
15:00:36 <YeOldHinnerk> It has been a couple of years
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15:12:32 <jralls> OK, you're up to date for software. The changes to FinTS were last fall, you might check with your bank to make sure that there weren't changes at their end. Beyond that unless fell can help you your best bet is the gnucash-de mailing list.
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15:16:50 <fell> YeOldHinnerk, hast du https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/HBCI gelesen?
15:18:22 <YeOldHinnerk> fell: Ja, aber Postbank ist nicht dabei. Insbesondere hat die Postbank auf ihre "BestSign" App umgestellt - wie wird das in GC / Aqbanking unterstützt? finde dazu nix.
15:19:59 <fell> https://www.aquamaniac.de/rdm/projects/aqbanking/wiki/AqBanking6_Bankentabelle sagt, ChipTAN optisch (Flickercode) klappt
15:21:40 <fell> Auf abanking-user war
15:22:03 <fell> auch ein Bericht, daß bestsign klappt.
15:22:39 <YeOldHinnerk> oh, den bericht über bestsign kenne ich nicht - wo ist der?
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15:27:01 <fell> Auf https://mailman.aqbanking.de/listinfo/aqbanking-user, aber das aktuelle Archiv ist nur für die Abonnenten der Liste zugänglich.
15:28:42 <fell> Am 11.02.20, aber auch 10.11.19
15:34:11 <YeOldHinnerk> ah, und subscribing scheint ncht adhoc zu funktionieren...
15:35:43 <fell> Vom November:
15:35:45 <fell> Die Postbank legt mit der BestSign App eine TanMediumKennung "Postbank
15:35:46 <fell> Girokonto" an. Diese muss in den Sicherheitseinstellungen zu einem Wort
15:35:48 <fell> geändert werden, z. B. zu Postbank_Girokonto.
15:36:01 <fell> Dann muss bei aqhbci-tool4
15:36:03 <fell> setTanMediumId - u UniqueId - m SO:Postbank Girokonto diese Bezeichnung
15:36:04 <fell> +SO: ohne Anführungsstriche eingegeben werden.
15:39:04 <YeOldHinnerk> ich habe keine ahnung was ich tun soll :)
15:40:13 <YeOldHinnerk> ich hadere auch mit den anderen feldern. benutername? benutzerkennung? ist irgendwas davon mein name? irgendwas meine postbank id?
15:40:56 <fell> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Onlinebanking-Einrichtungsassistent
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15:44:08 <fell> In dem Beispiel steckt Fiduca-GAD dahinter die alle Genossenschftsbanken bedienen.
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15:46:35 <fell> und danndas Ganze kombinieren mit https://www.postbank.de/privatkunden/bestsign-app.html
15:49:32 <YeOldHinnerk> ---und was waren das für schritte die Du oben gepostet hast? Das sagt mir gar nix...
15:50:03 <fell> Wenn dann noch was unklar ist, am Besten auf aqbanking-user nachfragen.
15:50:04 <YeOldHinnerk> wo wird von der postbank eine tan-medium-kennung angelegt, die ich ändern soll?
15:51:08 <fell> Das schrieb im November ein Benutzer, wie eer es mit der damaligen Version ans Laufen gebracht hat.
15:53:17 <fell> aqhbci-tool4 ist ein Kommandozeilen-Programm (Teil von AqBanking, also installiert), um die FinTS-Einstellungen zu ändern.
15:58:38 <YeOldHinnerk> ah, so langsam fangen einige puzzle stücke an zusammenzupassen.
15:58:43 <YeOldHinnerk> denke, ich komme voran
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16:00:20 <YeOldHinnerk> kurze andere frage in dem kontext: ist es inzwischen möglich für verschiedene konten bei derselben bank umsätze abzufragen?
16:00:33 <YeOldHinnerk> war vor ca 2-3 jahren jedenfalls nicht der fall
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16:06:23 <YeOldHinnerk> ok, ich habe es jetzt eingerichtet. aber sobald ich auf dem konto die umsatzabfrage starte, kommt die meldung, das sei für dieses konto nicht verfügbar. dabei bleibt der hbci verlauf leer, d.h. vermutlich ist es etwas auf gc seite?
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16:13:55 <YeOldHinnerk> ah, funzt
16:14:04 <YeOldHinnerk> muss nochmal konten abrufen im assistenten
16:29:45 <fell> Das war bei der Commerzbank, die verschiedenen Konten dieselbe Nummer zuordnet.
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16:31:25 <fell> Wenn ich mich recht entsinne, hat sich Martin da inwischen was einfallen lassen, YeOldHinnerk>.
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16:38:50 <YeOldHinnerk> oh, das wäre ja grossartig, wenn das jetzt läift
16:39:07 <YeOldHinnerk> muss ich gleich ausprobieren :)
16:44:12 <YeOldHinnerk> hmmm, gibt "Status: rejected"
16:44:25 <YeOldHinnerk> klingt, als wenn das postbank seitig immer noch nciht tut
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16:47:57 <fell> Dann frag mal auf aqbanking-user. Keine Ahnung warum das da nicht klappen sollte.
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16:49:37 <fell> jralls, was it your intention to apply the swig module only on unstable in -flatpak?
16:51:01 <jralls> fell, For now, yes. It's needed to build unstable from tarballs because master tarballs aren't swigged but maint ones are.
16:51:33 <jralls> Once I build 3.11 it can go to maint too.
16:51:49 <fell> Ah, OK.
16:52:17 <jralls> Or rather we'll juggle branches so that unstable becomes maint.
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16:53:42 <fell> BTW, I believe the branches should be documented for future contributors.
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16:56:09 <jralls> They are: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git#Branches
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16:59:36 <fell> except that we have no maint in packaging repos- ;-)
17:01:39 <jralls> True. So for gnucash-on-flatpak the unstable branch will just go away.
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18:36:39 <fell> jralls, Martin was busy today: https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-on-windows/pull/40
18:37:27 <jralls> Skipped 6.2.0 stable all together, eh?
18:37:55 <fell> 6.2.0 was beta
18:39:27 <jralls> Why can't he call his betas 6.1.9x like everyone else? OTOH, lots of people think .0 releases are betas even when they're not overtly called that.
18:41:21 <fell> .0 releases are betas as long as nobody is testing the nominal betas. ;-)
18:45:53 <jralls> By that measure so are all releases. ;-)
19:08:02 <warlord> lol
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