2020-05-10 GnuCash IRC logs
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03:47:13 <chris> jralls: master builds are dumping an enormous amount of debug logs
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04:14:36 <sbluhm> GnuCash Team: For when are you planning GnuCash 4? is there a feature freeze? I would like to add AD authentication support to MySQL/libdbd (last time, long time ago, this was not working). How much time to I roughly have for that?
04:14:59 <sbluhm> The news section mentions a soon release of 4
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07:58:36 <chris> jralls: I hadn't noticed that travis was failing in maint.
07:59:05 <chris> sbluhm: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule
07:59:37 <chris> sbluhm: feature freeze 31 May
08:00:52 <sbluhm> chris: Thank you! I was not aware of this page. I guess this contribution has to wait then.
08:01:28 <sbluhm> Actually I can see there are plenty of releases so all is good
08:04:33 <chris> jralls: I hadn't noticed that travis was failing in *master.
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11:28:34 <fell> Master fails since commit 5da3bf79 [QofLog] Replace hashtable with tree of vectors.
11:30:59 <fell> 'find_if' is not a member of 'std'
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12:17:07 <jralls_afk> fell: I fixed that failure last night, now the problem is that test-backend-dbi is failing.
12:18:05 <jralls_afk> chris, Travis isn't failing on maint. It is failing on master.
12:28:46 <fell> right
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12:50:31 <Guest14> Morning all! I'm popping in to ask about the "New Bill" dialogue. There's a top section for "Bill ID" and a middle section for "Billing ID". Can someone tel me the intended use for these fields? The help file seems to be out of sync for this topic and doesn't list the correct sections or fields.
12:55:27 <jralls> Guest14, the Bill ID is the id for the new bill in your GnuCash file. The Billing ID is the Vendor's Invoice Id, the one printed on the bill.
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13:01:09 <Guest14> I figured it was something like that. The help file says both fields are for the vendor's ID, which is adds to the confusion of the mismatched field names.
13:03:17 <jralls> fell, It looks like only the Invoice/bill ID has a tooltip in dialog-invoice.glade.
13:05:55 <Guest14> I've associated a file (receipt) to a record in Accounts Payable. Now how can I use that information?
13:06:06 <fell> Guest14, can ou give me the link in the docs?
13:06:50 <Guest14> mk:@MSITStore:C:\Program%20Files%20(x86)\gnucash\share\gnucash\help\C\gnucash-help.chm::/ch07s10.html
13:08:17 <Guest14> Maybe there's a translation factor in play, my help shows "Invoice Info" while the actual dialog section is called "Bill Information"
13:08:46 <fell> and our language?
13:08:52 <jralls> Guest 14, you can view the associated file from any register view of that transaction. It's an image so there's nothing GnuCash can use it for.
13:09:52 <jralls> Guest14, Both bills and invoices use the same UI elements. The only difference is the direction: You generate an Invoice to a Customer and receive a Bill from a Vendor.
13:09:59 <Guest14> @fell i'm not assuming the main language this was built in was english, that's all
13:09:59 <gncbot> Guest14: Error: "fell" is not a valid command.
13:11:18 <fell> At least i know, translators are also often confused by this terms.
13:11:31 <jralls> Guest14: You may assume that, you just can't assume that the writer necessarily speaks English as his first language.
13:12:25 <Guest14> So in conclusion, for the "Vendor - New Bill" dialogue, the top "Bill ID" is intended for whatever code I choose while the middle "Billing ID" is intended for the Vendor's code?
13:14:00 <jralls> Right, with the additional info that you can safely leave Bill ID blank and GnuCash will assign a serial number based on the settings in File>Properties>Business.
13:14:20 <Guest14> Thanks for clearing that up!
13:14:45 <jralls> Plus the Billing ID is just for your reference, GnuCash doesn't use that value itself.
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13:15:16 <Guest14> For associating a file to a payment, are there reports that will show the path to the file? End of the day I want to be able to get to those receipts relatively easily.
13:17:42 <jralls> I don't think so.
13:20:07 <Guest14> I'm not seeing the value of associating a file then...Is there some documentation I should review?
13:24:53 <jralls> Some see value, other's don't. It's there for users who do.
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13:26:59 <Guest14> I'd be interested to know the value others are getting from associating files. Anyone care to share?
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15:15:23 <mohave> jralls no joy here with boost_1_73_0. Same linker failure.
15:17:05 <jralls> mohave, with what toolset?
15:17:13 <jralls> err, toolchain
15:18:45 <mohave> n
15:19:05 <mohave> boost toolset or compiler?
15:19:18 <mohave> or?
15:19:33 <jralls> boost toolset.
15:19:55 <jralls> You're still on Xcode 11.4.1, right?
15:20:03 <mohave> toolset=clang-darwin
15:20:07 <mohave> yes
15:21:25 <jralls> Interesting. It worked for me on Friday after I upgraded my system. I'm just about to build GnuCash again after upgrading a bunch of modules, so we'll see how that goes...
15:24:44 <jralls> Bombed in a bleeping guile compile. This will take a while.
15:25:46 <mohave> Before now, gnucash was always a breeze to compile, it was just the prereqs that were so stubborn
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16:16:55 <fell> @tell chris Isn't 'Bug 569749 - Company name should populate corresponding fields in reports' already fixed?
16:16:55 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
16:19:57 <jralls> mohave_ I fixed locally the guile problem. It turned out to be a boost build problem too. I didn't have any trouble with the normal linking of e.g. libgnc-core-utils.dylib.
16:27:06 <mohave_> jralls you mentioned that you upgraded on Fri. To Catalina and Xcode 11.4.1?
16:29:50 <jralls> I was already on 10.15.3, I went to 10.15.4. I'd upgraded to 11.4.1 when it came out, found that it caused problems that I didn't have time to deal with then, and rolled back to 11.3.1. I'd been putting off the 10.15.4 update for the same reason. By Friday I had cleared the queue enough so I closed everything down and did the upgrade.
16:31:13 <mohave_> Hmm, guess the problem must be on my end...
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16:36:45 <jralls> First make sure that you really did install boost 1.73.
16:39:30 <jralls> I guess just to be sure I'm on the same page with you, the linkage error is about missing directory_interator_construct, right?
16:40:00 <jralls> Do you know how to use `nm`?
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16:59:38 <fell> jralls, you think, I should rebase my hellipses patch and direct use '…'?
16:59:48 <fell> on master
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17:00:19 <jralls> fell, I don't see any reason not to.
17:02:31 <fell> It started as a spin-off of updating de.po. I have to rethink the order then.
17:03:04 <jralls> Well, I guess that's a reason. It will blow up all of the translations.
17:04:24 <fell> If we understood it's usage, we could use cstim's script.
17:08:14 <jralls> For replacing "..." with '…' a simple sed s/.../…/ should do.
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17:14:12 <fell> ... before running msgmerge, which would else set the fuzzy flag.
17:15:56 <jralls> Right, otherwise you need human intervention because there's no way to tell if the fuzzy is for the ellipsis or for something else.
17:16:22 <jralls> no way for a script to tell, that is.
17:20:16 <jralls> Note that in C and C++ files you need to prefix the literals with `u8`, e.g. _(u8"Edit…").
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17:27:05 <fell> There is no switch to make it the default?
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17:32:08 <jralls> Not in the standard. gcc is apparently happy to ingest utf8 (and utf16 for wchar_t). Clang seems to need `-finput-charset=utf8`.
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