2020-05-02 GnuCash IRC logs
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04:58:43 <chris> gjanssens: maint has a TZ issue right now... try TZ=GMT-8 ninja check
04:59:13 <chris> or maybe wait for jralls
05:01:05 <gjanssens> I'll wait for jralls :)
05:10:50 <chris> Assuming #714 is a good fix, I've already amended #585 for master to convert budgets. But it'll be fine to delay conversion.
05:11:23 <chris> #585 now understands that budget liability amounts are usually zero or negative for credit-accounts.
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06:48:13 <giuseppef> Hi, now I am trying to contribute to italian translation. Can anyone explain me how and where in GnuCash commodities are managed? I don't understand if the term "commodity" is referred to phisical stuff or to stocks and financial titles
06:49:13 <chris> commodity usually means non-currency stock & mutual funds
06:50:59 <giuseppef> ok, so it is something traded on financial markets?
06:52:56 <chris> possibly, it can also be 1kg of gold, or 1 house
06:56:21 <giuseppef> where are used in gnucash?
06:56:54 <chris> gjanssens: interesting thought... can a commodity have negative price (consider the current barrel of oil news)
06:58:03 <chris> giuseppef: an account can be in currency EUR/GBP/USD or commodity VODAFONE/TSLA/MSFT.
06:58:36 <chris> or you can define your own commodity eg 1kgGOLD and use track its value in an asset account.
07:00:06 <giuseppef> I understand. Italian has not such a general term. This is way it is untranslated
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07:56:58 <giuseppef> Hi, where is used "namespace" word in gnucash?
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08:25:06 <warlord> in general most accounts can only be in a currency. Commodity accounts are (were?) limited to Stock and MutualFund types. Unless this changed? gjanssens?
08:25:51 <warlord> giuseppef, the namespace is used to group commodities. In general they are grouped by exchange (NYSE, NASDAQ, etc), but users can generally define any namespace they want.
08:26:05 <warlord> There are a few "special" namespaces: CURRENCY and "template"
08:26:27 <giuseppef> ok, thanks
08:27:53 <giuseppef> The last italian translation was update for version 2.6 I think, so I have many strings to translate, and I never used gnucash for trading, so I need some help understanding where words are used
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08:29:00 <gjanssens> jralls: I don't think that has changed
08:30:08 <gjanssens> Eh, warlord, that one was for you really ^
08:33:13 <warlord> giuseppef, fair enough.
08:33:15 <warlord> gjanssens, okay.
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11:04:58 <giuseppef> another hint: what's "scatter"?
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11:27:43 <chris> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scatter_plot
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12:32:36 <jralls> chris, gjanssens, The GMT-8 problem wasn't the last commit. 3.10 passes so I'm starting a bisect.
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15:10:43 <jralls> chris, gjanssens, Well, that wasn't productive. It fails at least as far back as 3.4, which is strange because I know that part of packaging for Debian is doing an all-TZ test.
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15:25:24 <jralls> chris, gjanssens, Hah, nevermind that. It's actually TZ=Etc/GMT-8. The problem is the same one that Finfort pointed out in gnucash-user: Just replacing the time with 10:59:00 doesn't work in TZs east of the prime meridien.
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18:35:59 <jralls> chris, TZ problem is fixed now.
18:43:10 <jralls> @tell gjanssens When you find a few minutes can you have a look at https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/650? It's about using Google Mock to mock out Engine classes for unit tests. The work and code are good but I'm not sure if we'd use it enough to want to add it and maintain it.
18:43:10 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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19:19:31 <vpan> hi, i am new here, where can I find the rules for this channel?
19:19:47 <vpan> I have a few questions on using gnucash
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19:21:40 <jralls> vpan, the only rules are be nice and no spam. Ask your question.
19:23:04 <vpan> hi i am new here and with gnucash. Is this a good place to ask question after checking the help files?
19:25:06 <jralls> Depends on the questions. If it takes a lot of explaining or the right person for your question isn't around then you're better off asking on the gnucash-user mailing list.
19:26:00 <vpan> ok i will ask, if no one can help then i will try to mailing list
19:26:01 <vpan> thank you
19:26:16 <vpan> I am in the process of account creation, and I have added all my credit card accounts, however, I cannot see the income and expense account types
19:26:55 <jralls> Are you creating by hand or using the new account hierarchy assistant?
19:27:03 <vpan> I created one expense account with the credit card account type, but im not sure if thats the right way.
19:27:06 <vpan> by hand
19:27:12 <jralls> OK.
19:27:41 <jralls> You need to read the Tutorial and Concepts Guide. A credit card account is a liability, not an expense.
19:28:09 <vpan> understood! ok thank you soo much, im going to reread it. and start with account hierarchy
19:28:43 <jralls> Yeah, I do recommend the hierarchy assistant for folks new to GnuCash and formal accounting.
19:29:05 <jralls> The first chapter of the T&CG walks you through using it.
19:29:43 <vpan> yea i see.. thats definitely much much easier to understand
19:29:47 <vpan> thank you again :)
19:31:30 <jralls> You're welcome.
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