2020-04-06 GnuCash IRC logs
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08:44:32 <KJS> Can anyone help with AqBanking wizard problems? I completed add steps, retrieved accounts, went back to main setup wizard and can't advance to the next step to match accounts. Does anyone know how I can verify these accounts were retrieved or what else could be wrong?
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08:50:16 <chris> jralls/warlord: Scrub.c - any idea why xaccAccountTreeScrubSplits is called during XML load, but not loading from other backends?
08:52:42 <warlord> chris, my *guess* is that it's to deal with the fact that we don't really know the version number of the source XML data file, whereas we DO have schema versions in the SQL backend and can "update" appropriately.
08:53:38 <chris> 🙄
08:54:21 <chris> anything that's easy is made difficult
08:55:12 <warlord> yep
09:09:54 <chris> bwahahaha: https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/commit/2d44d452a244e671f614330a9b46b2c519db8abc
09:12:39 <warlord> Wait, how can a split have been reconciled in the future?
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09:13:57 <chris> exactly: user (eg d.reiser) has entered statement date as 30/06/2020 in error while reconciling.
09:14:22 <chris> he did it back in 30/06/2006
09:16:54 <chris> i fixed reconciliation so that reconciled_balance ignores splits whose reconciled_balance > statement_date
09:17:10 <chris> this enables lots of new features but brights out garbage data like this
09:24:26 <chris> I would *not* want to create another ScrubN.c which would add another splitlist walk just to fix these reconciled_dates. So why not do it JIT?
09:27:21 <chris> fwiw this scrub is incorrect.
09:28:06 <chris> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797668#c3 would be a fix that makes the reconcile window work again
09:28:18 <chris> as ugly as it is, it's the one that can handle bad data.
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09:32:56 <chris> I'd hope you agree that reconciliation statement_date must be clamped in UI so that we cannot choose a future date.
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10:20:46 <warlord> Sometimes it might make sense to reconcile a day or two in the future (I do that at times).
10:21:47 <warlord> E.g. I use reconcile status for expense reimbursement. When I get a reimbursement check I deposit it, but the date of deposit is always at least "tomorrow". But then I'd like to immediately reconcile the account back down to 0.
10:21:57 <warlord> .. which means reconciling "tomorrow"
10:22:02 <warlord> but I want to do it today
10:22:18 <warlord> BUt yes, I agree it makes no sense to reconcile years in the future.
10:26:39 <chris> in this case maybe we'll allow leeway of 1 month for statement_date
10:27:50 <chris> any idea whats the best policy for handling/repairing these garbage-data? scrub in maint then feature in master?
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10:37:51 <warlord> I don't know. Keep in mind that you could load files from any previous version.
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11:44:29 <warlord> chris, I think you missed my last reply (from 10:37) -- just noticed you had quit 2 minutes earlier and rejoined 2 minutes later. I said:
11:44:34 <warlord> I don't know. Keep in mind that you could load files from any previous version.
11:48:42 <chris> ok thx; maybe other devs will have further ideas.
11:48:54 <chris> gtg
11:52:24 <warlord> send email. :)
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13:21:47 <jralls> @tell KJS Your AQBanking issue is likely because it temporarily lost the ability to work with OFX Direct Connect. If you're on Windows or MacOS installing GnuCash 3.9 should resolve the problem.
13:21:47 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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13:32:47 <lmat> I'm not running X on my laptop. How do I shut off the screen?
13:33:04 <lmat> Oh goodness, wrong channel, my apologies.
13:33:24 <jralls> lmat I usually just shut the lid.
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13:41:52 <lmat> jralls: It's still on. I peeked inside the lid and I see light from the monitor.
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13:48:26 <jralls> lmat, not a Mac, I take it. Or at least not MacOS. So what OS and if Linux/BSD what windowing system?
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13:58:20 <SorenV> I was wondering if any one could shed some light on why Arch did not upgrade to 3.9 when it was released. I'm trying to decide if I should try to figure out how to install from source or give them more time. It seems fairly intentional. https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/gnucash&id=6c657df98228008080c3f2180e10c980f146711c
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14:01:41 <warlord> SorenV, I think you'll have to ask the maintainer.
14:02:21 <warlord> SorenV, maybe email Jaroslav Lichtblau <svetlemodry@archlinux.org> and ask?
14:02:25 <SorenV> That's fair, thought I might check with you all first. Will do. Thanks
14:02:55 <lmat> jralls: Not a mac! Dell precision m4700, arch linux.
14:03:04 <lmat> it looks like setterm -blank 1; will blank the screen after a minute.
14:04:57 <jralls> Oh, so no windowing at all. Do you just want to blank the screen or do you want to put the laptop to sleep?
14:05:10 <lmat> Hmm, strange that arch linux is out of date on gnucash so long.
14:05:25 <lmat> jralls: Blank screen, not sleep. Right, no windowing at all!
14:05:49 <lmat> framebuffer only. (I would prefer that I don't have to sign in at all, but that may be asking too much.) (Don't bother asking why I want a headless laptop ^_^)
14:08:00 <jralls> It's not headless, that's not possible on a laptop. Headless is when you have no console attached to the system and have to telnet or ssh into it.
14:08:34 <lmat> jralls: Oh yes, that's right.
14:08:41 <jralls> And considering how painful it is to set up a GUI on Arch I'm not at all surprised why you'd want console-only.
14:08:48 <lmat> haha!
14:09:13 <jralls> Besides, who needs a gui when there's emacs?
14:10:28 <lmat> Emacs nearly passes as an OS...
14:11:54 <jralls> Nearly, it just needs a kernel and a filesystem and can take care of the rest on its own.
14:12:31 <jralls> IIRC people have set it as their shell in /etc/passwd.
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14:19:56 <lmat> Oh, I didn't know about that!
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14:20:19 <jralls> Tempted? ;-)
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14:24:37 <lmat> I'm a vim guy.
14:24:59 <jralls> emacs has vi-mode!
14:25:54 <jralls> https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/VimMode
14:26:41 <jralls> Superseded by the aptly-named evil: https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil
14:27:20 <lmat> Oh yes, I remember evil!
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15:23:32 <jralls> warlord, any thoughts on https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/682?
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15:34:09 <warlord> jralls, I think the implementation is wrong. If it's firing off multiple SXes at once it wont "fix" the balance between them. E.g., let's say you go away for 3 months and don't fire off 3 months of mtg payment transactions..
15:34:23 <warlord> The 1st one MAY be right, but the latter 2 will not be.
15:46:00 <jralls> warlord, OK. Will you comment on the PR?
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15:51:55 <warlord> jralls, done
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20:52:45 <n08l3J> android, I believe you have to unpost the bill before you can edit it
20:59:50 <warlord> n08l3J, indeed, you do.
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21:37:45 <n08l3J> warlord, If I were to debug the csv import function of Gnucash, How do I go about doing it. It have a workaround, but I really wanted to learn the right way.
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