2020-03-30 GnuCash IRC logs
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02:44:46 <gjanssens> Yay, the appdata fixes I did recently nicely reflect on the flathub page as of 3.9: https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnucash.GnuCash
02:44:46 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 11 hours and 10 minutes ago: <jralls> But the wiki says You can omit -c or -d if they are the same as -r, but always specify at least -r (as that will otherwise default to maint resulting in a development build or a tarball not found error). That certainly implies that the -r flag is what tells the build script that it should do a release build.
02:47:16 <gjanssens> jralls: I see the confusion. However what that was meant to imply was that the omission of '-r' would be equivalent to passing '-r maint'. And not specifying a tag but a branch will trigger a development build.
02:47:32 <gjanssens> I'll see how I can better formulate that.
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04:05:44 <gjanssens> fell: my first new translatable string for 3.10 has been pushed. Hopefully this is soon enough ;-P
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05:06:47 <fell> Congrts, gjanssens. No new string, but an improvement from a translators view. But will it fit in the combo box?
05:12:20 <gjanssens> fell: it does. The combobox resizes as needed
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06:30:26 <meudus> Hello together, out of nowhere my GnuCash lost the import MT940 function, i couldnt find any update about it in the Update nodes. Is this something general or is it just my isntallation which seems to be messed up?
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06:41:42 <fell> meudus, you would better ask on the mailing list I fear here are no MT9xx users.
06:43:24 <meudus> well i used it since years... its just missing in the menue... . My quetsion is simply is it just in my case or for evryone (version: Version: 3.8 Build ID: 3.8b+(2019-12-29) )
06:52:28 <fell> meudus, which distro?
06:54:29 <meudus> Manjaro so Arch-Linux Community repo
06:54:33 <fell> I heard recently, some distributions forgot to enable aqbanking support.
06:55:35 <meudus> oh i checked if it is installed but didn't check if it is enabled thx for the hint
06:55:45 <fell> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/65294
06:59:33 <meudus> thx alot. That was the point :D sometimes its bad to be on top of upstream
07:03:52 <fell> Perhaps they should now ship gnucash3.9 with aqbanking 6.1.4, gwenhywfar-5.2.0 and libchipcard-5.1.5rc2
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09:02:02 <chris> anyone knows approximately when maint will be mothballed and master becomes the new maint?
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10:53:14 <chris> warlord: would you mind explaining in simple terms the comment before gncOwner.c owner_from_lot "XXX: Yea, this is broken, but it should work fine for Queries. We're single-threaded, right?" -- is it still impossible to create a simple GncOwner* gncOwnerFromLot (lot) returning *gncOwner or NULL?
10:54:00 <warlord> chris, Give me a minute to look at the code and swap that back into RAM ;)
10:54:44 <chris> yeah untar as well :)
10:55:00 <warlord> LOL. Yeah.
10:55:09 <chris> simple: remember I am still not too clever with C's & and *
10:55:12 <warlord> Okay, so the issue is the "static GncOwner" that gets returned.
10:55:57 <warlord> So what's going on is that this function defines a static GncOwner object in the data portion of the application, and then it fills in the data and returns a pointer to the static object.
10:56:13 <warlord> If the function is called a second time, then the static object will be over-written.
10:56:34 <warlord> So if you're holding onto it, and then someone else calls the function, your data will be overwritten.
10:57:09 <warlord> This is why I say "we're single threaded", because in a single-threaded application you can call this API, then use the data, and you're safe.
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10:57:34 <chris> ok i got that (kinda) but whenever I tried to copycat it to create a gncOwner * gncOwnerFromLot (*lot), I can't do it
10:57:39 <warlord> BUt in a multi-threaded app, thread 1 could call this function, then thread 2 can call it (which will overwrite the data returned to thread 1) ... before thread 1 can use the results.
10:57:59 <warlord> What do you mean by "copycat it"?
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10:58:34 <chris> i.e. create a simple function gncOwnerFromLot (lot) which returns NULL or gncOwner* - I always get a compilation error
10:59:23 <warlord> Why can't you use owner_from_lot() ?
10:59:54 <chris> well I want to expose it from guile; removing static means it doesn't compile
11:00:22 <chris> s/from/to
11:00:46 <warlord> Well, it wont compile if you remove the static because it's not declared in a .h file.
11:01:06 <warlord> What compilation error are you getting? You should literally be able to do:
11:01:38 <warlord> GncOwner* gncOwnerFromLot(GNCLot *lot) { return owner_from_lot(lot); }
11:01:48 <warlord> And declare gncOwnerFromLot in gncOwner.h
11:02:13 <warlord> NB that this has the same multi-threading issue that owner_from_lot has.
11:04:03 <chris> well, blow, it seems to work
11:05:06 <chris> maybe the next question is whether it's possible to fix it so that it doesn't return a static object? I guess the caller must then gncOwnerFree it afterwards?
11:05:14 <warlord> Correct
11:05:25 <warlord> You could do:
11:05:43 <warlord> GncOwner * owner = owner_from_lot(lot);
11:05:47 <warlord> if (owner) {
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11:11:51 <chris> thank you... next silly question: gncOwnerGetName returns a string. why does guile not need to g_free the returned string? is it handled by .i?
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11:14:34 <chris> thank you... next silly question: gncOwnerGetName returns a string. why does guile not need to g_free the returned string? is it handled by .i?
11:14:36 <chris> opos
11:14:38 <chris> oops
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11:22:40 <chris> thanks warlord your snippet works well.
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11:26:09 <warlord> chris, I believe it is handled by .i
11:26:43 <chris> I'm quite tempted to push for this change... makes gncOwnerFromLot marginally more functional and removes a lot of gncOwnerFree in reports
11:28:31 <chris> engine.i has %typemap(newfree) gchar * "g_free($1);"
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12:06:57 <gjanssens> warlord, chris: I believe the guile integration adds multi-threading to the table. So we have to be careful exposing static variables to that code
12:07:15 <gjanssens> The guile processes run in their own threads from what I can see
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13:30:37 <jralls> chris, warlord, it would be safer to use gncOwnerGetOwnerFromLot(GncLot*, GncOwner*), which is already public and which owner_from_lot wraps. It's already available from swig. You need to call gncOwnerFree on owner when you're done with it; that's also already available to scheme.
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14:05:23 <jralls> chris, For 2.7 we created an unstable branch when we began testing so that we could begin work on 3.900 right away. I don't remember the details of that but the reality was that there were so many bugs that no work happened on master for over a year after releasing 3.0.
14:06:12 <jralls> We could do the same when we're ready to release 3.901 in 3-4 weeks.
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14:08:45 <jralls> Or we could hold off until 3.0, when we'd release 3.10, merge master into maint, and release 3.0.
14:13:17 <warlord> jralls, do you mean 4.0?
14:13:47 <jralls> Yeah, sorry. It's a bit late to hold off until 3.0, isn't it?
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14:16:55 <jralls> gjanssens you might want to opine on that as well.
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14:28:44 <warlord> Just a tad
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14:51:54 <gjanssens> I'll do so tomorrow. It's getting late here.
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18:59:10 <chris> jralls: gncOwnerGetOwnerFromLot is already in use by guile; I was hoping to find a way to make it functional, and avoid the need for gncOwnerFree completely - eg %typemap(out) gncOwner* "gncOwnerFree ($1);" - it would simplify code greatly
18:59:19 <chris> but this is low priority
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22:26:07 <fell> jralls: Shouldn't your astyle call from https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/664#issuecomment-605503886 go into https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/CodingStandard?
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22:48:55 <n08l3J> Hello
22:49:53 <n08l3J> I am new to Gnucash and learning it by using it. I have a business account that have A/R from some customers who have existing balance and some A/P accounts to vendors where I have balance to pay.
22:50:17 <n08l3J> Is there a way to set these customer/vendor accounts with account balances?
23:12:56 <fell> n08l3J: https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/ch_import_bus_data.html
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