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05:59:09 <chris> anyone knows wth someone thought to copy window-reconcile.c to window-reconcile2.c ???
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10:56:09 <fell> chris: perhaps as part of the register rewrite (register2)?
11:01:12 <chris> isn't it time to remove traces of register2? nobody got time for that
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12:15:16 <jralls_laptop> chris, I think gjanssens has hopes of reviving reg-2. When Bob-IT started reg2 he hoped that it would be fairly straightforward and he could just remove the reg-1 files. It didn't work out that way so we're stuck with both sets.
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12:25:07 <chris> it's just as well guile doesn't have a good UI toolkit otherwise I'd be on it :)
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12:30:21 <jralls> chris, on some other project, I suppose. Oh, wait, there isn't one.
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17:37:01 <mohave> Got a new Mac, and figured I recompile GC from git. Any ideas on the following errors after successfully running gtk-osx-setup.sh
17:37:04 <mohave> ➜ ~ jhbuild bootstrap
17:37:04 <mohave> Loading .env environment variables…
17:37:04 <mohave> E: ['pkg-config', '--list-all'] failed
17:37:04 <mohave> E: ['pkg-config', '--list-all'] failed
17:37:04 <mohave> *** Checking out m4 *** [1/29]
17:37:05 <mohave> jhbuild bootstrap: failed to unpack /Users/ctest/gnucash-stable/src/pkgs/m4-1.4.18.tar.xz
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18:02:34 <mohave> never mind, fixed via "brew install xz"
18:08:49 <jralls_laptop> mohave: RTFM! Homebrew and gtk-osx are mutually incompatible. If you have brew the simplest way to use gtk-osx is to set up a new user and use fast user switching.
18:09:55 <jralls_laptop> mohave: The first command you need to run it jhbuild bootstrap-gtk-osx. jhbuild bootstrap runs the Gnome bootstrap modules which are for Linux.
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18:18:03 <mohave> jralls_laptop: I wasn't using homebrew, but found that when I did things worked. In RTFM, under Preliminaries, there is an instruction to run "jhbuild bootstrap". Then later on in the guide, under building, we see "Once all of the preliminaries are complete, run:
18:18:13 <mohave> jhbuild bootstrap-gtk-osx
18:18:13 <mohave> jhbuild build
18:18:33 <mohave> I hadn't yet made it past the prelim's
18:19:34 <mohave> BTW I am using fast user switching.
18:20:24 <jralls_laptop> mohave, the authoritative instructions are https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GTK/OSX/Building. It says in bold italics at the end of the second paragraph: Mixing HomeBrew, MacPorts, or Fink and GTK-OSX will fail.
18:21:17 <jralls_laptop> mohave: Later, under procedure, it says Now run\njhbuild bootstrap-gtk-osx.
18:23:17 <jralls_laptop> If you're on https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOS/Quartz the very first words under preliminaries are "Read Building Gtk-OSX", linked to the Gnome wiki page.
18:24:04 <mohave> jralls_laptop: so under Preliminaries, should this step be deleted?
18:24:06 <mohave> Run jhbuild bootstrap to install the tools needed for the rest of the build.
18:24:31 <mohave> it's right before the subsection setup_sdk
18:24:35 <jralls_laptop> Changed, not deleted. Which I just did.
18:25:01 <mohave> thanks!
18:26:05 <mohave> then maybe under the Building section, the redundant jhbuild bootstrap-gtk-osx could be removed?
18:28:04 <jralls_laptop> Hmm, which way do you think is clearer? The first one is kind of in the middle of the instructions about customizing your build config.
18:28:33 <mohave> I think Building should stay as is.
18:30:03 <jralls_laptop> OK, the first one is gone.
18:30:53 <mohave> thanks, I'll restart from scratch with no Homebrew...
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20:01:26 <chris> jralls_laptop guile had several attempts at creating UI -- guile-ncurses / guile-gtk / gi-golf but I *think* it suffers from the fact it mainly implements FFI to C bindings, and cannot keep up with upgrades. I've always struggled to create a UI using pure guile.
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20:04:00 <jralls_laptop> chris, that wouldn't apply to curses. It's been around, largely unchanged, since the early 80s. Gtk is indeed a moving target, but it doesn't move that fast, and gobject-introspection makes bindings pretty simple. Dunno about golf, I've never heard of it.
20:06:05 <jralls_laptop> I didn't mean that there's no gui for guile. I meant that there's no other project that uses guile that has a gui. It's not quite true, there's a music program called lilypond, but they're stuck on guile 1.6.
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20:07:50 <chris> the gi in gi-golf aims to do gobject-introspection and IIUC makes the bindings forever and is in *active* development
20:14:47 <jralls_laptop> Ah, OK. Is anyone actually using it for anything?
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20:30:21 <chris> I doubt it... doesn't stop them hacking on it and updating #guile
20:31:04 <chris> last time I asked they had just implemented signals
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20:32:30 <jralls_laptop> I guess it keeps them out of bars at night.
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