2020-02-22 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:17:18 <gjanssens> .
04:17:18 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 1 day, 14 hours, and 41 minutes ago: <jralls> Meyers says that Effective C++ is still relevant, but he *does* have an ulterior motive. It was the first C++ book aimed at actual practitioners (as opposed to e.g. James Coplein's seminal Multiparadigm Programming in C++" that was aimed more at the folks writing what was to become the standard library). The 3rd ed. is updated through the 2003 TSes and although some of it is superseded by Effective Modern C++ (e.g. *do not user aut
04:17:19 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 1 day, 14 hours, and 41 minutes ago: <jralls> o_ptr*) there's still a lot of valuable guidance in there.
04:17:20 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 1 day, 14 hours, and 37 minutes ago: <jralls> Another older book still worth rereading from time-to-time is Herb Sutter's Exceptional C++, especially the second section on exception safety, though that material is also available online in the Guru-of-the-week archive at https://herbsutter.com/.
04:29:37 <chris> warlord: from your memory of qif spec do you think it'll be a safe job to try deduplicate QIF splits (or xtns) describing the same gnucash txns? I think it can be safe, but I suspect you will have a different view...
04:31:31 <chris> there's code to match with existing book txns but I think none to match QIF internal xtns
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06:14:01 <chris> ooh trep-engine.scm could have another client.
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06:55:19 <leolein> I'm a little frustrated. After PSD2 gnucash/aqbanking went back online... Today I get again the error message "Software not registered as FinTS product. Please contact manufacturer."
06:55:44 <leolein> Flatpak Version:
06:57:10 <leolein> maint-C3.8b-46-g5ac7f1bea-D3.8b-4-g7c7b4e5
06:57:19 <leolein> 3.8b-46-g5ac7f1bea+
06:58:19 <leolein> I have three bank accounts. I can access one of them. The others I can't.
07:04:00 <leolein> Because of 3 failed attempts my access was blocked last week - because my PIN seems to have been invalid.
07:04:03 <leolein> But it is valid - because it works on the website.
07:04:51 <leolein> Correction: I can't retrieve all three accounts.
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08:04:01 <warlord> chris, there is code in there that attempts to dedup. I dont recall the algorithm, tho.
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08:04:48 <warlord> but it will only dedup across multiple qif files. I dont think it will dedup in a single file because it assumes a "smart" exporter wont send dupes.
08:10:14 <fell> leolein, AFAiK the registration part was not changed since ~5 month. Sound like you have old libs remaining on your system.
08:15:17 <fell> And also version 8b-46 is a month old and does not have the most recent aqbanking stuff.
08:19:35 <fell> gjanssens gnucash-docs ninja clean failed in windows maint.
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08:30:41 <chris> warlord: I would think it'd be fine to offer my consulting services... not much interested in the income but want to expense some of my hobby. taxwise it's sound, right?
08:31:12 <chris> warlord: thanks I'll try fix QIF. i wish I had a basic quicken to play with.
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08:32:38 <Han> chris: quicken is free. not the newest stuff, but the 2015
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08:41:12 <chris> I'd hope no objections for pvt small consulting
08:53:34 <chris> Han: where?
08:54:20 <Han> https://www.netzwelt.de/download/16891-quicken-kostenlos.html
08:54:38 <Han> it is in german, but with google you can translate the page
08:56:24 <warlord> chris, sure, go ahead. All devs are welcome to "consult" :)
08:57:05 <chris> \o/
09:02:13 <warlord> I know cstim used to do that, too.
09:02:35 <warlord> Back in the day I was considering it as well, but got busy with other gigs and never really had the time.
09:07:05 <chris> Any idea of reasonable price? :)
09:09:56 <warlord> That is up to you.
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09:18:31 <leolein> fell: In the meantime I have installed version 3.8b-89. Same problem.
09:19:24 <fell> leolein, which OSß
09:19:30 <fell> ?
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09:22:35 <fell> Linux or Windows?
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09:24:58 <leolein> debian
09:35:21 <fell> Und du verwendest Flatpacks von https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/maint/?C=M;O=D oder debs?
09:36:10 <fell> die debs von wo?
09:39:37 <fell> Ich habe den Verdacht, daß dir irrgendein Debian "Update" veraltete gwenhyfar, aqbanking oder gnucash Bibliotheken untergejubelt hat.
09:42:04 <fell> Flatpak's dürften davon aber eigentlich nicht betroffen sein.
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09:52:09 <fell> han, the version of your link was last modified 16.10.2013. Later the german edition was renamed: https://www.netzwelt.de/download/18604-lexware-finanzmanager-kostenlos.html
10:00:50 <Han> fell, ist schon ok, ich bin jetzt unter linux und nutze nur gnucash
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11:38:43 <leolein> fell: Das ein debain update daran beteiligt ist kann natürlich sein. Könntest Du mir bitte sagen welche libs das namentlich sind? Ich schau dann nach den Versionen
11:39:18 <fell> siehe 15:39
11:40:21 <fell> Such mal die 3 Pakete in deiner Software-Verwaltung
11:43:18 <fell> aktuell sind aqbanking-6.1.0 und gwenhywfar-5.2.0
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13:14:00 <gjanssens> fell: for some reason a number of files were considered open in another application. They couldn't be removed from within a build shell. Oddly enough I could remove them using Windows Explorer.
13:14:27 <gjanssens> I have manually started the docs build now. But a new package will only appear on the next nightly...
13:16:58 <fell> gjannsens: IIRC we had parallel hanging windows build of 2 days a few days ago. Could that be the reason?
13:17:21 <fell> gjanssens ^
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13:20:05 <fell> My other suspect was the switch to ninja.
13:26:31 <gjanssens> The error seems to be there since the switch to ninja. But that doesn't mean it's the cause. It may just be triggering something that has been lingering for a long time.
13:26:44 <gjanssens> I'll keep an eye on it in the coming days.
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20:34:04 <apteryx> hello! when deleting an account, I can't choose the destination account I'd like to move the orphaned transactions to. Is this expected?
20:35:13 <apteryx> The account I want to delete (Assets:Checking Account:Some Bank) is under a place holder account, Assets:Checking Account. I'd like to be able to move the transactions from Assets:Checking Account:Some Bank to Assets:Checking Account, but for some reason it won't accept it.
20:35:30 <jralls> @tell gjanssens I've fixed all of the issues you raised so far on c++options and force-pushed the result, losing all of your comments. The suggestion about gnc_account_list_from_types turned out to be a huge change and I've decided to set it aside for now.
20:35:30 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
20:36:46 <jralls> apteryx, Why do you think that a placeholder account would accept transactions? The whole point of placeholders is that they don't.
20:38:21 <jralls> @tell gjanssens I found a better way to flag _get_option(): I converted it to a friend function swig_get_option implemented in gnc-optiondb.i. The friend decl still has to be public, but it's pretty clear now that it's intended only for swig.
20:38:21 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
20:43:10 <jralls> @tell gjanssens It builds on a more-or-less up to date Arch Linux but the Integrate gnc-option into app-utils commit causes some odd test failures in test-sx, test-aqb, and python-bindings. Still trying to figure those out.
20:43:10 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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20:45:16 <apteryx> jralls: I thought it's a nice way to "hide" those transactions without having unbalanced accounts
20:45:34 <apteryx> also, it seems to have worked for another account deletion, so I was puzzled that it didn't in this particular case.
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20:46:24 <jralls> Maybe in the other one you remembered to make the receiving account not-a-placeholder while you did the transfer and put it back after.
20:46:26 <apteryx> If I just select the "hide" tickbox of an account to make it disappear from the view, it still clutters the account autocompletion mechanism.
20:46:58 <apteryx> that's why I'm doing it this way. Suggestions welcome.
20:47:17 <apteryx> jralls: OK, I'll try unticking the placeholder property for the time I do this
20:48:01 <jralls> Mind that the account commodities have to match too.
20:49:23 <apteryx> jralls: Actually, being a placeholder doesn't prevent one from moving deleting transactions to it.
20:50:05 <jralls> Oh? What was blocking it then?
20:50:07 <apteryx> What was the problem here was that the placeholder account was of the type "Bank", while the account to be deleted was of the type "Asset". After making the type of the placeholder "Asset" as well, I could move the transactions to it.
20:53:36 <jralls> Huh. I can sort-of see why that would apply but it seems simplistic. Out of curiosity did you try changing the other account to type BANK?
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21:29:31 <apteryx> jralls: No I didn't; my first try was to change to Asset and it worked
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