2020-02-17 GnuCash IRC logs
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09:34:20 <chris> I think it's time to rid jqplot in master
09:36:37 <chris> I can't remember if it's safe to remove html-pie/bar/scatter/line.scm jqplot code
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13:46:18 <|||||IIIIIIIIIIIllllllllll> hi
13:49:08 <|||||IIIIIIIIIIIllllllllll> I was looking at gnucash and was curious if it was appropriate to use for accounts payable across a few different properties that would all feed into one home office. Basically wondering what if any arrangements would have to be made for networking across the various stores, if that is possible to coordinate.
13:52:47 <warlord> |||||IIIIIIIIIIIllllllllll, unfortunately gnucash does not currently handle multi (simultaneous) users
13:53:17 <warlord> So you would need to share the datafile between the properties, and coordinate runtime usage.
14:00:28 <jralls> Plus there's no inventory or POS support so it's not really a good choice for retail.
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14:42:38 <|||||IIIIIIIIIIIllllllllll> hmmm, I plan on using it just to track purchases made so inventory or POS support wouldn't be an issue I don't think
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15:52:25 <fell> jralls, there are no recent win builds.
15:53:57 <jralls> fell, and by recent you mean "since yesterday".
15:54:07 <fell> yep
15:55:56 <fell> Usually they appear short before european high noon.
15:56:59 <jralls> You do know that "high noon" is seldom 12:00, right?
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16:01:31 <fell> At my places it is usully ~12:40 CET/13:40 CEST.. ;-)
16:05:00 <jralls> Hmm, I have an ssl problem connecting. It says that it can't load certs from ~/.spicec/spice_truststore.pem. The file doesn't exist.
16:06:47 <warlord> jralls, is that when trying to connect to ovirt? Or to something else?
16:07:08 <jralls> When trying to start the remote viewer session.
16:07:22 <jralls> I'm connected on the website.
16:09:00 <jralls> The console file does have two certs in it.
16:09:13 <warlord> Hmm. When was the last time it worked for you?
16:09:39 <jralls> I don't remember exactly, but I think before you moved.
16:09:39 <warlord> (just trying to ensure it's not something that got messed up with the upgrades I did a couple weeks ago)
16:09:57 <jralls> I remember testing after you did the upgrades.
16:11:13 <warlord> Well, I was just able to get in to the console.. It's stuck at [905907] Generating ... test-html-chart.go
16:12:01 <jralls> OK. Open task manager, go to details, and kill the guile process.
16:13:05 <jralls> That's sunday morning's master, so it should fire up a maint build as soon as it quits.
16:15:59 <warlord> Interesting. There are 2 guile processes listed.
16:16:45 <jralls> Are they both using 0 cpu?
16:17:16 <jralls> And did you change the SSL certificate on the Ovirt server when you moved?
16:17:58 <warlord> Yeah. I killed them both.
16:18:02 <warlord> What is YourPhone.exe??
16:18:45 <jralls> Never heard of it. https://www.partitionwizard.com/partitionmagic/yourphone-exe-process-windows-10.html
16:19:13 <warlord> Yeah, its a win10ism.
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16:24:13 <jralls> I guess I should mention that Chrome has refused to connect to https://ovirt.ihtfp.org since I upgraded to Catalina because the certificate is corrupted. Firefox connects but reports that the connection isn't actually secure and also reports an unreadable certificate.
16:28:38 <jralls> Safari has no trouble with it. Very weird. But that's probably unrelated to console.vv.
16:29:11 <warlord> Very odd.
16:29:24 <warlord> I haven't upgraded any of the certs. But I could
16:29:55 <warlord> I'm just worried that if I do it will destabilize the system, sort of how my startup script broke after the upgrade from 4.1 to 4.3
16:30:14 <warlord> So I killed guile, but the powershell hasn't changed.
16:30:49 <warlord> Spoke too soon..
16:30:56 <warlord> It just said some stuff and then disappeared.
16:31:37 <jralls> Which it should. The scheduled action daemon should start on this mornings runs in a minute or two.
16:32:03 <warlord> ok
16:32:24 <warlord> I just exited the console.
16:36:49 <jralls> There are two urls in the console.vv http://ovirt.ihtfp.org instead of https. I edited them and launched RemoteViewer. I got Socket I/O timed out instead of the SSL connect error.
16:38:06 <warlord> That's because it *is* an http URL to proxy to the viewer, and then the viewer uses TLS internally.
16:38:24 <warlord> You should see a port number in there, too.
16:39:44 <jralls> You mean proxy=http://ovirt.ihtfp.org:3128 ?
16:40:00 <jralls> or host=ovirt.ihtfp.org:443 ?
16:43:55 <warlord> both.
16:44:00 <warlord> But the proxy is supposed to be http
16:44:11 <warlord> if you change that, it will definitely fail.
16:44:53 * warlord is trying to remember how to get RemoteViewer to work on Mac.
16:44:58 <jralls> Might you have introduced a rewrite when you set up the new network.
16:46:08 <jralls> Type /Applications/RemoteViewer/Contents/MacOS/RemoteViewer path/to/console.vv
16:46:17 <warlord> Aha.
16:47:53 <warlord> Interestingly, it is failing for me, too. First, I see ".../Remoteviewer: line 79: test: argument expected"
16:48:16 <warlord> Then the "loading ca certs from .speces/spice_truststore.pem failed"
16:48:24 <warlord> Then an SSL_connect error
16:48:38 <jralls> That's exactly what I see.
16:48:55 <warlord> Well, good that I can reproduce it, then!
16:49:09 <warlord> I can get in just fine from my Linux (Fedora-29) desktop
16:49:33 <warlord> Since I can reproduce it, I will work to debug it.
16:53:41 <warlord> jralls: Interesting: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1127762
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16:55:34 <warlord> jralls, and here is a thread from 2018 about this same issue: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/CDS67FP5R3YJPT5MWGC7LQ26XV2QV37Z/
16:58:33 <warlord> ... which leads me to this bug report: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/spice/spice/issues/22
16:58:50 <warlord> ... which has never been touched. :(
17:00:16 <warlord> So it is clearly an issue with the upgrade of the ovirt host from 4.1 to 4.3; the engine i had upgraded a while ago.
17:00:27 <jralls> Not quite, Christophe Fergau, having asked for the bug report on the ovirt ML proceeds to blow it off as a kernel problem on Linux guests.
17:00:58 <jralls> Maybe, because some of the reporters in the thread said that it's intermittent.
17:01:23 <warlord> Let me try connecting to a different VM.
17:02:27 <warlord> Nope, I am 0 for 3 now with different guest OSes. It's about the host os upgrade.
17:02:34 <warlord> Anyways, I need to run..
17:02:40 <warlord> Sorry to hit this on you. :(
17:03:03 <jralls> OK. I'm looking into (finally) building a new Mac RemoteViewer, maybe that will help.
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17:04:09 <warlord> ok.
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