2020-01-18 GnuCash IRC logs
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03:38:03 <FH_thecat> so, I have reconciled my credit card, and clicked "finish"
03:38:49 <FH_thecat> in previous version of gnucas, it asked me whether the reconciled amount should be automatically added as transaction
03:38:55 <FH_thecat> now it does not ask me
03:39:44 <FH_thecat> how can I tell gnucash, to automatically create a transaction wirth the reconciled amount ?
03:40:05 <FH_thecat> I don't wat to have to create it manually each month
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08:03:04 <chris> ooh i have some new-aging speedups coming soon :) 5.3s -> 1.5s?
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11:22:41 <fell> FH_thecat: Usually there should be no difference which need to be recorded as transaction.
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15:37:06 <khobo> heyhey!!
15:37:17 <khobo> anyone awake?
15:37:55 <khobo> *sigh no one awake on freenode #gnucash no one awake here
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16:00:53 <Mechtilde> khobo, what is your question?
16:00:59 <khobo> oh my god
16:01:01 <khobo> thank you
16:01:34 <Mechtilde> it's late in the evening here ;-)
16:01:37 <khobo> okay, so I have an S-Corp, I went back from the beginning (2016) and plugged everything in
16:01:49 <khobo> i'm in 2020 now
16:01:56 <khobo> but I need the expenses from 2019
16:02:04 <khobo> now i've been closing my books at the year end
16:02:12 <khobo> is there anyway to get those expenses?
16:02:18 <khobo> without having to add everything up by hand?
16:02:45 <khobo> i've got a few small questions like this -- if you have time and don't mind
16:02:49 <Mechtilde> did you try the reports
16:02:57 <khobo> okay, so i click Reports
16:03:31 <Mechtilde> did you also read the "tutorial and concepts"?
16:03:36 <khobo> (i did)
16:03:40 <khobo> but the language confuses me
16:04:10 <khobo> ahh man i can't figure out how I got into the expense report
16:04:17 <khobo> i've seen it once and there were 0's all over it
16:04:22 <khobo> i'm guessing because i closed the books
16:04:53 <khobo> oh okay P&L
16:04:59 <khobo> gives me the expense breakdowns
16:05:28 <khobo> so i go into options -> general
16:05:38 <khobo> start date 01/01/2019
16:05:42 <khobo> end date 12/31/2019
16:06:17 <khobo> okay that worked
16:06:19 <khobo> (sorry)
16:06:58 <khobo> okay, so -- when I close my books
16:07:03 <khobo> let's say i closed 2016
16:07:10 <khobo> and realized that i wanted to recategorize an expense form 2016
16:07:19 <khobo> i would need to delete the closing and redo it, correct?
16:08:58 <Mechtilde> I don't know; I didn't use it myself
16:10:13 <khobo> do you use the edit -> tax report options?
16:10:18 <khobo> cause that's. my next question -- specifically wtf is this
16:10:54 <Mechtilde> no
16:11:14 <Mechtilde> for which country do ou need it?
16:11:20 <khobo> i'm USA
16:11:24 <khobo> i can't figure out what it does
16:11:29 <khobo> or what it's for
16:11:37 <khobo> i'm guessing for importing into tax software?
16:11:45 <Mechtilde> and I don't know what it should do
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16:23:15 <warlord> khobo, yes, the tax options are to make assignments for how accounts should be treated for the tax report, which outputs something that can theoretically be imported into tax software.
16:23:25 <khobo> ahhh
16:23:35 <khobo> warlord: thank you bbwarlord
16:23:39 <warlord> you're ewlcome.
16:23:51 <khobo> do you know about my closing books questions?
16:23:58 <khobo> like i've closed 2016
16:24:06 <khobo> but am switching transactions around
16:24:15 <khobo> i'll need to delete the closing and redo it after i'm done, correct?
16:24:30 <khobo> otherwise it's still computing from the old account charts
16:24:40 <warlord> correct
16:24:58 <khobo> cool, and nothing gets screwed up when that happens, correct? i can delete the book closing as many times as i want
16:25:09 <khobo> and redo it --
16:25:19 <warlord> the Close Books just adds everything up and creates a transaction that zeros it out. If you go back and change something then that zero-calculation is also going to be broken and will need to be re-done.
16:25:28 <warlord> correct.
16:25:28 <khobo> gotcha
16:25:30 <khobo> sick!
16:25:38 <warlord> :)
16:25:40 <khobo> are you a CPA?
16:25:44 * warlord wrote the Close Books tool ;)
16:25:50 <khobo> nooo you didn't
16:25:53 <khobo> that's so sickk!!
16:26:04 <khobo> tell me you're a CPA/DEV
16:26:12 <khobo> would be a sick worlds colliding
16:27:21 <khobo> also, i've tried several times to get a clear answer on this but the language really throws me for a loop. i've seen several people comment that you actually don't need to close the books every year
16:27:27 <khobo> and if you do some reports won't work?
16:27:42 <khobo> would you mind explaining that to me (i'm very sorry i swear i've tried to find these answers online but i always seem to get confused)
16:32:11 <warlord> Nope, I am an engineer. Just learned lots of accounting along the way.
16:32:40 <khobo> so cool
16:32:47 <warlord> you do not need to close books. the reports will all handle that just fine.
16:32:58 <khobo> hmmmm
16:33:04 <khobo> so to see my true retained income
16:33:10 <khobo> i would need to generate a report rather than look at the charts of accounts
16:33:12 <khobo> then?
16:33:23 <warlord> If you DO close the books, it USED to be the case that some reports would not handle that properly. I believe most of those corner cases have been fixed, but it's possible that reports across a close-boundary may be "off"
16:33:40 <khobo> ahh, okay i see
16:33:48 <khobo> i'm in #accounting on snoonet
16:33:52 <khobo> they're true CPA's and stuff
16:33:54 <warlord> Yes. What you'll see in your CoA is the total income since you started accounting, as opposed to income for this period.
16:33:56 <khobo> they're all recommending that i close the books
16:34:09 <warlord> Closing the books is Old Skool.
16:34:16 <warlord> It was necessary when you used Pen and Paper
16:34:21 <warlord> It's not really necessary now.
16:34:23 <khobo> gotchaaa
16:35:08 <khobo> how does the search function work? i've noticed sometimes it gives me the proper results and sometimes it doesnt. is it based on what account his highlighted in the CoA?
16:35:21 <warlord> All it does is move the value from immedite equity accounts (Income and Expense) to "permanent" Equity
16:35:30 <khobo> all what does? closing?
16:35:32 <warlord> Closing
16:35:40 <khobo> gotcha
16:36:03 <khobo> I can't believe i'm talking to you! i just told my gf =p
16:36:14 <khobo> i fucking love IRC
16:36:36 <khobo> it used to be such a wasteland back in the day -- now it's just old school guys with professions
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16:48:38 <khobo> warlord: when i delete all these closing books (2016,17,18,19). and I go to redo them (if i decide to). I'll need to do them in order right?
16:48:40 <khobo> start from the oldest
16:48:49 <khobo> so 2016 first
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17:20:24 <khobo> also, i'm fixing all my placeholder accounts and when i choose expenses: travel & entertainment (it has 3 sub accounts) and choose placeholder it says "please choose a valid parent account"
17:20:27 <khobo> any idea what that is?
17:21:17 <khobo> i see i see nevermind ignore that
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17:27:22 <warlord> Sorry, had to deal with something. Re Search: It depends on what tab you start from. If you start from CoA it should search everything; if you start from an account it will only search that account.
17:27:51 <warlord> khobo, yes, you need to do it in order.
17:28:54 <khobo> gotcha!
17:31:15 <khobo> Okay, so, last question (I think)... https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html
17:31:21 <khobo> 10.2.1. Accounting Period
17:31:32 <khobo> Start Date:
17:31:42 <khobo> i've got "start of this year"
17:31:59 <khobo> what does that effect?
17:32:03 <khobo> affect*
17:34:28 <khobo> also, i hate that there's no ctrl z (step backwards)
17:34:33 <khobo> command*
17:34:42 <khobo> my vote is on an undo button
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19:09:30 <khobo> https://itsosticky.com/eco05w
19:09:36 <khobo> when i generate my P&L
19:09:43 <khobo> see how Fees = $0.00
19:09:55 <khobo> is there anyway to have that combine the sub accounts?
19:10:05 <khobo> so i get a total.. instead of having to add it up by hand?
19:10:52 <warlord> khobo, sorry, I'm not sitting in front of my laptop constantly.. The Accounting Period just affects the dates used when you select Account Period in reports (and possibly for the "Current Period" column in the CoA)
19:11:06 <khobo> no it's okay!
19:11:26 <khobo> also i figured out the subtotal issue
19:11:29 <warlord> khobo, Have you looked in the report options?
19:11:32 <warlord> great!
19:11:38 <khobo> options -> display -> parent account balances -> subtotal
19:11:49 <khobo> sorry man sometimes i ask before I think
19:11:54 <khobo> okay, let me revisit that first question
19:11:58 <warlord> no worries. I am like that too
19:13:00 <khobo> I wish you could choose different fonts on the report generation
19:13:02 <khobo> and text size
19:15:16 <khobo> oh i see -- so when you generate a report
19:15:20 <khobo> the default is "start of this year"
19:16:03 <khobo> ahh okay there are some font preferences in here
19:20:03 <warlord> yeah
19:21:38 <khobo> cool!
19:22:40 <khobo> also, thank you so much for your work on this application
19:23:57 <warlord> youre welcome.
19:24:03 <warlord> It's been a while since I did any coding on it, tho.
19:38:08 <khobo> =p
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23:48:15 <CharlesIC> hello
23:48:16 <CharlesIC> anyone around?
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