2020-01-17 GnuCash IRC logs

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06:30:36 <FH_thecat> I have this in my /etc/default/locale:
06:30:42 <FH_thecat> LANG="en_DK.UTF-8"
06:30:42 <FH_thecat> LC_COLLATE="C"
06:30:42 <FH_thecat> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
06:31:04 <FH_thecat> but when i start Gnucash, it uses "," instead of "." as decimal pointr
06:31:10 <FH_thecat> decimal point
06:31:46 <FH_thecat> other applications seem to work as expected (use "." as decimal point)
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09:01:56 <warlord> .
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11:54:51 <jralls> FH_thecat: Set LC_MONETARY=en_US as well.
11:55:40 <jralls> fell: If there's a file access problem with Gwen 5.1.1 and the fix is already pushed to git should we hold off for 5.1.2?
11:56:22 <fell> IMHO: No.
11:57:56 <fell> We had suggested to copy ~/.aqbanking to aqbanking6 before using anything of the aqbanking6 lib.
11:59:48 <fell> In between (already in our previous update) Martin implemented this copying in his tools (but without access rights)
12:00:37 * fell is looking for aqb updates now.
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12:03:05 <fell> Nothing until now. Martin is releasing usualy in european evening times.
12:04:35 <fell> The only difference between the last two gwen versions is a fix for the Consors bank, which sometimes sends an inproper segment..
12:06:12 <fell> ~/.aqbanking/settings -> settings6 was meant above.
12:09:20 <jralls> Hrmm, OK. This is a mess but I need to get c++options done if we're to release 4.0 in June, I'm holding up gjanssens and chris. import-export/aqb will have to wait.
12:16:29 <gjanssens> jralls: I don't feel like you're holding *me* up as I currently only have time to do small tweaks in between here and there...
12:16:52 * gjanssens never knows when he gets a bigger slot available to spend on larger refactorings
12:16:57 <jralls> I thought there was something you wanted to do with options.
12:17:29 <gjanssens> Well, I hope I can, but that would require me to have enough time to spend
12:17:43 <gjanssens> Your work will affect chris in any case
12:20:03 <gjanssens> Which incidentally is why I can things like reviewing large spelling fix commits. That only takes a couple of minutes and not building mental models of gnucash spaghetti code logic.
12:20:16 <gjanssens> can *do* things like...
12:21:05 <jralls> Yeah, the mental model thing is a problem, especially for things like AQB. Too many moving parts.
12:21:54 <jralls> OTOH I'm leery of encouraging spelling nazis. Did you check out that guy's github account? He's cloned over 700 repos.
12:22:38 <jralls> I checked a couple of his other PRs. Both told him to get lost.
12:24:51 <gjanssens> I am cautious indeed, though I thought fixing plenty of silly typos in one go would be better than doing it each time I happen to encounter one.
12:25:04 <gjanssens> 700 is scary though
12:25:36 <fell> He tries to rpomote his tool.
12:26:42 <jralls> Yeah. Unfortunately it's neither as good nor as safe as he thinks it is.
12:29:09 <jralls> He should have written it with clang tidy instead of hand-rolling 10000 lbs of perl regexes.
12:32:51 <gjanssens> Ok, so what's our next step ? Just drop it ?
12:33:37 <gjanssens> The bit I reviewed so far really only affects comments
12:34:46 <gjanssens> And while it's a bit overzealous, the two you didn't like are not really wrong either, just too pedantic
12:36:16 <jralls> Yeah, but I only got a tiny bit into the file. BobIT and Mikee would disagree that colour->color isn't wrong. ;-)
12:37:32 <jralls> Which is why I don't want to entertain spelling nazis. I don't want contributors to think that we're nitpicky about stuff that doesn't matter when we have far too many things wrong that do matter.
12:38:13 <gjanssens> Fair enough. Feel free to recline the effort on that basis then.
12:38:36 <gjanssens> Anyway, I have to leave for tonight. Guests have arrived.
12:38:44 <jralls> OK, g'night.
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13:18:44 <jralls> fell, would you please test PR 631 to make sure it doesn't break FinTS?
13:25:00 <fell> jralls: I have no working FinTS connection or GC files with account associations. Perhaps we should ask the other contributor(s) of this code region.
13:25:28 <jralls> Oh. What have you been testing AQB with?
13:27:14 <fell> I test usually: I can do some configuration without crash
13:27:46 <fell> The rest is left to the nighly users.
13:28:30 <jralls> Who aren't able to build so they can't test PRs. :(
13:30:44 <fell> Wasn'T there Ingoha, who contributed to the file association, too?
13:37:02 <fell> or d-dittmann
13:38:25 <fell> he was the counterpart contributor.
13:41:58 <fell> in PR623
13:42:35 <fell> or cstim?
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15:06:24 <fell> https://www.aquamaniac.de/rdm/news/25
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16:49:24 <fell> jralls, can you run a test build in gnucash-on-windows?
16:49:45 <jralls> Already doing so with the new aqb & gwen.
16:50:58 <fell> after creating the PR I forgot to switch to faltpak and pushed
16:55:12 <jralls> Fortunately you created a new branch. Please do `git push origin :aqb6.0.0` (substituting code or upstream or whatever for origin if you pull from github).
16:56:57 <jralls> But I've already made the change locally, no need for a PR.
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17:09:12 <fell> remote: fatal: Invalid revision range cd1eaaf0501446cb09ed79077cef4f35d781d6dd..0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
17:09:13 <fell> remote: *** Mirror changes to origin (usually github)...
17:09:15 <fell> remote: To ssh://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-on-windows.git
17:09:16 <fell> remote: - [deleted] aqb6.0.0
17:09:18 <fell> remote: * [new branch] origin/aqb6.0.0 -> origin/aqb6.0.0
17:09:19 <fell> To code.gnucash.org:gnucash-on-windows
17:09:21 <fell> - [deleted] aqb6.0.0
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17:09:55 <fell> It seems removed from code.gnucash.org, but not from github.
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17:12:56 <fell> No, it is not on GH.. Probably I ishould have read from bottom to top?
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18:06:12 <jralls> fell, the branch is gone. The rest was noise. Thanks.
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18:07:41 <jralls> fell, and the AQBanking build worked on Windows, so pushed.
18:08:10 <fell> I will then write an nighly announcement for gnucash-de.
18:08:30 <fell> Do you want to write one for gnucash-user?
18:09:23 <fell> I assume OFX still need testing, bugreports, ...
18:12:45 <fell> It has the shiny new ofx2 support, jralls.
18:13:52 <jralls> I'll try it out later. OFX in 5.99.44 is utterly broken, it can't even read its config file.
18:16:14 <jralls> Aside from that I don't think that there are many US banks that actually use OFX2.0 because Intuit doesn't.
18:17:58 <fell> To get some progress on ofx, Martin needs at least bug reports.
18:37:34 <jralls> Martin also needs someone to test. But see my earlier comment about aqbanking vs. c++options.
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18:52:40 <fell> That was, why I tried to guide Ken Scchneider, who volunteered, before you rushed in "You need to revert to AQBanking 5.20 to use OFX"
18:55:41 <jralls> Well, it's true. I don't think that "utterly broken" will make a useful bug report. One must figure out what's broken and why to guide Martin. Then you have to be able to build and test Martin's patch. That's beyond the abilities of most users.
18:56:30 <jralls> Meanwhile users who need to get their work done have to use AQB 4.8.
18:57:14 <jralls> Sigh, no that's Gwen. They need that too, of course, but AQB *is* 5.20.
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