2019-12-03 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:23:31 <gjanssens> .
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05:02:20 <chris> The "Profit & Loss" report is identical to "Income Statement". How about we hide the first one via 'in-menu? #f? saved-reports will still run.
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06:25:39 <gjanssens> chris: That's an old debate - in the past this was tried but several users back then protested loudly.
06:26:11 <gjanssens> Though I wonder if this is not simply a localization thing - parts of the world call it P&L other parts call it income statement.
06:26:36 <warlord2> chris, no.
06:26:40 <gjanssens> In Belgium I'm only familiar with "profit & loss"
06:26:58 <warlord2> They are the same report with different names because different locales and environments expect them under different names.
06:27:04 <gjanssens> Hey, warlord has a doppelganger - warlord2 !
06:27:27 <warlord2> We got yelled at when we renamed P&L to Income Statement, then got yelled at when we changed it back. So we kept both
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06:27:35 <warlord> fixed
06:27:38 <gjanssens> :)
06:28:49 <gjanssens> GnuCash is currently not configurable enough to make locale or even region based decisions with fine granularity.
06:29:18 <gjanssens> So until someone come up with code to support that we have to live with a bit of redundancy
06:29:19 <warlord> even so, even within the US locale both names are used in different arenas
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06:29:47 <warlord> It would be nice, however, to be able to select locales for certain things, like account hierarchies.
06:30:22 <warlord> IMHO, it would be really nice if the user were presented a list of locales (defaulting to the local locale) but could choose any account structure in the database, regardless of local system locale
06:30:26 <gjanssens> Well, that's why I suggested "region based" as well, but perhaps it's even "business category A against business category B"
06:30:50 <warlord> gjanssens, it can be, yes.
06:31:03 <warlord> personal vs e.g. non-profit accounting use different terms here.
06:31:04 <gjanssens> warlord: agreed on the locale selection thoug
06:31:12 <gjanssens> h
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06:59:39 <chris> okie
07:00:51 <chris> this debate must have been a looong time ago
07:01:26 <warlord> chris, I feel like it happens about once a decade or so (considering I'm about to start my 3rd decade in this project, having completed 2 decades already)
07:03:13 <warlord> Gotta run -- back online in about 45 minutes.
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11:29:15 <jralls> warlord, gjanssens: In the US, non profits use neither P&L nor Income Statement, it's Statement of Activities: https://www.growthforce.com/blog/4957/general/financial-statements/
11:30:46 <warlord> Even better.
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11:31:04 <jralls> Since users can easily change the report title to whatever they want ISTM we should have told the whiners to stuff it.
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11:38:34 <warlord> I think it was just easier to have two names, because it was confusing users.
11:42:37 <jralls> I doubt that it was confusing anyone, but making two names was no doubt easier than arguing the point.
11:43:18 <warlord> Could be.
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11:50:28 <jralls> gjanssens: You said on https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/615 that you want to discuss removing the unused radio-button option for multichoice.
11:51:48 * gjanssens is writing a comment on that PR as we speak :)
11:52:09 <jralls> OK
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