2019-05-08 GnuCash IRC logs
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03:53:40 <chris> .
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06:30:04 <warlord> CDB-Man_, do you have a valid price quote in the pricedb?
06:31:09 <warlord> CDB-Man_, actually, it looks like there is an invalid value in the pricedb for microsoft..
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11:18:59 <mr_sm1th> I'm importing my bank statement into gnucash, it contains deposits of a monthly loan. When I set the contra account to be the loan account, it is also a deposit insead of a withdrawal. Do I have to manually add the loan as a withdrawal or is there a more convenient way to do it?
11:22:25 <warlord> i'm confused -- your bank statement is listing a loan payment as a deposit???
11:22:50 <mr_sm1th> loan deposit
11:23:06 <mr_sm1th> I get money each month, but also the loan is increased every month because of that
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11:23:57 <warlord> So it's a monthly loan to you.. So yes, if you're extracting money from the loan, that would absolutely increase the loan liability amount..
11:25:00 <mr_sm1th> but when I set the loan account as a transfer it is listed there as a deposit
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11:25:23 <warlord> If however you took out e.g. a $10000 loan and it pays you $100/mo over time, but you want that $10000 amount fixed... You could have a single transaction of $10000 to a loan suspense account, and then take the $100 from the suspense account to bank.
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11:26:05 <warlord> What is the Account Type of the loan account? Liability doesn't have "Deposit"
11:26:12 <mr_sm1th> as a rebate*
11:26:48 <warlord> Sounds like the account type is wrong.
11:27:00 <warlord> Sounds like it is listed as an Expense and not a Liability.
11:27:11 <mr_sm1th> Expense yes!
11:27:12 <mr_sm1th> Oops
11:28:02 <warlord> Then yes, going from Expense -> Bank would decrease the expense account amount.
11:28:07 <warlord> That is correct behavior.
11:28:18 <warlord> Probably not what you want :)
11:29:49 <mr_sm1th> nope!
11:30:13 <mr_sm1th> it's now an 'increase' so it reduces the amount of liability
11:30:33 <mr_sm1th> and if I change it to a decrease the bank transaction flips as well
11:30:54 <mr_sm1th> so I guess I cannot transfer it to a liability
11:31:06 <mr_sm1th> but I have to add a liability manually
11:31:15 <mr_sm1th> liability transaction rather
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11:32:40 <warlord> Umm... If you credit a Liability and Debit an Asset, it should increase both.
11:33:27 <warlord> Crediting a Liability is "pulling" more money out of it.. Like a credit card. The balance should increase.
11:37:00 <mr_sm1th> Yes it is an increase in the liability as well, but that means it registers as me owing less money, i.e. the balance increases, which is not what I want
11:38:58 <mr_sm1th> I hope I'm making sense
11:40:21 <mr_sm1th> I guess I should transfer the transaction to an Income account instead, and manually make a new transaction in the loan liability, but to what account should I transfer that transaction?
11:41:13 <mr_sm1th> Oh I just found something Transaction > Add Reversing Transaction
11:41:16 <mr_sm1th> that seems to be what I want
11:42:49 <mr_sm1th> Oh nope that's just to cancel
11:44:40 <warlord> No, if you credit a liability the balance increases which means you owe MORE money..
11:49:47 <mr_sm1th> ahhh
11:50:00 <mr_sm1th> I put the starting value as a decrease
11:50:23 <mr_sm1th> I didn't know that +20k balance of a liability meant -20k net assets
11:50:45 <mr_sm1th> great, thanks so much warlord
12:04:29 <warlord> there you go..
12:04:47 <fell> @tell chris About https://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2019/05/07.html#T08:50:32: I understand that, but it would be nice, if you would add FixMe comments to the reports or open .bugs for the issues.
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12:10:13 <fell> @tell peanutbutterandcrackers About https://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2019/05/07.html#T01:29:25 You should copy that text in a ReadMe file in your Repo and the ask on the Mailing lists for testers.
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12:12:11 <fell> CDB_Man_: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/IRC#Use_pastebin_for_longer_text_and_imagebin_for_screenshots
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16:07:22 <mr_sm1th> Is there an Account type for assets that fluctuate in value but are not stocks?
16:19:14 <mr_sm1th> Also, somehow stock accounts show the price when bought not the current price.
16:32:01 <mr_sm1th> When I open GnuCash with LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8 it shows Total (EUR) as a column, but when I open it with en_EN.UTF-8 it shows Total (USD) as a column
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16:34:20 <mr_sm1th> I resolved the prolem with the Total column not showing the current price by removing the earlier price, but this seems like a bug
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16:44:43 <warlord> mr_sm1th, it will show the current price if you get current quotes.
16:44:51 <mr_sm1th> yeah somehow it used the old price
16:45:01 <mr_sm1th> so I deleted the old price and then it used the new price
16:45:58 <warlord> Hmm
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17:18:19 <fell> mr_sm1th: there is no region abbreviated EN, so it falls back to US.
17:19:31 <fell> About assets with changing value, you should read https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_dep.html.
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