2019-04-30 GnuCash IRC logs
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02:48:57 <gjanssens> .
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03:46:24 <chris> jralls from my testing I cannot find fault in your latest win32 maint
03:46:36 <chris> tried unicode in report-title, vi_VN locale
03:46:44 <chris> they work
03:47:07 <chris> what I haven't tried yet is: load saved-report from previous Latin-1 saved-reports
03:47:26 <chris> all UTF8 strings are loaded correctly from my tests
03:47:36 <chris> (clap^2)
03:47:45 <chris> (expt 'clap 2)
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03:50:49 <chris> so, the only test remaining is: load 3.5, save extended-unicode into saved-reports which would encode them as #\xNNNN, and reload using latest maint. I'm 99.9% sure I'll be handled fine.
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06:47:16 <gjanssens> So in a recent change libwebkitgtk3 has been dropped from MSYS2: https://github.com/msys2/MINGW-packages/issues/5207#issuecomment-483400667
06:47:34 <gjanssens> That means the only way we can have it still for our Windows build is to manually install it.
06:48:22 <gjanssens> Or add build rules in jhbuild as we have for the MacOS build
06:48:36 <gjanssens> (Assuming it *can* be built on Windows)
06:49:39 <gjanssens> We really should find an alternative for this bloated pile of junk.
06:50:12 <gjanssens> Hopefully we can pick this up for the 4.x series at some point
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09:01:48 * gjanssens is updating the Windows setup script to ease the webkitgtk3 situation...
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09:27:16 <chris> .
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09:28:34 <chris> jralls tested (1) install 3.5 (2) create report with ext-unicode in report-title (3) save book.gcm & saved-reports; saves ext-unicode SchemeOptions and saved-reports as \uHHHH (4) install maint-win32 (5) reload (6) successful reload, resave as UTF-8 (7) all strings now work well
09:29:50 * chris will hope guile can get some love back
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11:43:48 <gjanssens> chris: thanks for the tests
11:44:18 * gjanssens has beaten some common sense into the setup-mingw64.ps1 file
11:44:41 <gjanssens> If you're still having issues setting up a Windows build environment, you may want to rerun it
11:44:48 <gjanssens> chris: ^
11:44:55 <gjanssens> It should now properly install all dependencies
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11:49:18 <chris> :-) thx confirming i wasn't seeing things
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11:49:55 * chris amazed at gj's skills
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12:35:32 <jralls> gjanssens: I think MinGW64 just changed the name of webkitgtk3 to webkitgtk, but I haven't tested to be sure that it still works.
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12:39:47 <jralls> fell: Report_Screen.png was replaced by Help_Report_Screen.png in https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-docs/commit/ab5e690cee259e1b7482a041f804d9b4cbe2d1fa in 2007. As for content, it's the illustration in https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-help/ch04s04.html. Any report will do.
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12:41:41 <fell> jralls, then I will remove that without help at the beginning.
12:41:55 <jralls> OK.
12:42:39 <fell> From it's content it could have been related to guide/invest
12:43:28 <jralls> Except that it's in help.
12:44:39 <fell> Yeah, and I did not find a reference there last night.
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12:50:46 <jralls> Fortunately cmarchi used a similar file name so grep found it. Then it was a matter of looking at the history of the replacement file to find where it was added and looking at the diff from that commit to make sure that it was actually a replacement.
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12:52:10 <gjanssens> jralls: pacsearch webkit didn't reveal another webkitgtk package, only qt packages
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13:10:03 <jralls> gjanssens: So I see. That's weird, mingw-w64-webkitgtk is still in https://github.com:msys2/MINGW-packages.
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13:22:05 <gjanssens> jralls: yeah, but aparently no longer in the pacman database (as mentioned here: https://github.com/msys2/MINGW-packages/issues/5207#issuecomment-483400667)
13:23:07 <gjanssens> Anyway for now it makes little difference. We had to pin the packages anyway because of the icu conflicts.
13:23:40 <gjanssens> But I don't know how long the built packages will still be available for direct download.
13:28:14 <jralls> AFAICT forever, but maybe we should stash a copy of the tarball in the dependencies dir on SF for safety.
13:30:00 <jralls> I don't see a good solution to the bloated-mess problem. Anything that can lay out html+css and provides javascript is going to be pretty big.
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13:33:25 <jralls> And before anyone suggests LsTeX, that's even more bloated.
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14:27:14 <jralls> gjanssens: I was reminded yesterday of https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723145 because it's mentioned at the bottom of https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings#System_settings and that confused a user.
14:27:37 <jralls> gjanssens: Is there anything more to be done about it?
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15:05:55 <gjanssens> jralls: yes, I think the last bit isn't solved sufficiently yet, but it'll take me some time to refresh my memory here...
15:06:21 <gjanssens> If I don't come back at this before the end of the week, feel free to remind me.
15:06:37 <jralls> Uh... and what will remind me?
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15:12:03 <fell> The next confused user. ;-)
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15:54:02 <gjanssens> :D
15:54:51 * gjanssens will leave the report open in a browser tab. That may up the odds a little bit that he remembers...
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16:24:37 <fell> In version 2 we had "Forward" buttons, in version 3 "Next" buttons in the assistents.
16:25:25 <fell> Was that a change by GTK, Gnome HIG or by accident?
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16:26:39 <fell> We will have change the intro texts + translations to get this consistent.
16:31:55 <fell> in my 3.5 de.po I count 48 "Next" and 19 "Forward"
16:33:32 <fell> gjanssens, jralls, what do you thinkß
16:34:26 <jralls> fell: I'm pretty sure that was a Gtk2->3 change.
16:35:28 <fell> OK, then I will start to change the texts.
16:36:26 <fell> I only wanted to create a missing screenshot for the docs, but it look inconsistent.
16:37:03 <gjanssens> Agreed, this is not something we changed deliberately
16:37:53 <jralls> But if I grep for each in gnucash/gtkbuilder I get one file with "Next" (assistant-loan.glade) and 5 with "Forward", one of which is dialog-totd.glade the rest assistants.
16:38:46 <fell> Import.>QIF has Next
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16:41:11 <fell> accounts from CSV: Next
16:48:24 <jralls> And the qif import assistant doesn't use a glade file, so likely Gtk2->3.
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16:55:38 <fell> jralls, po says gnucash/gtkbuilder/assistant-qif-import.glade:39
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16:57:42 <jralls> Oh, there it is. I'd thought that gjanssens had left the import-export glade files in their respective source directories.
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16:59:32 <fell> But as I get "Weiter" in glade, it seems to be builtin.
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17:00:36 <jralls> Yeah, none of the buttons in assistant-qif-import.glade is named either Forward or Next. It must be coming from Gtk.
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18:35:20 <fell> Do we want to unify "Forward" (glade), 'Forward' (all), \"Forward\" (C, po)?
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18:36:51 <fell> jralls?
18:39:49 <jralls> fell: Careful. There may be uses of Forward that aren't associated with assistants. Our usage will be mostly, maybe entirely, in documentation strings like tooltips and labels.
18:40:21 <jralls> The button name translation will come from gtk.mo.
18:41:13 <fell> I am only changing strings, which I can verify from running the program.
18:43:20 <fell> One author uses "Label" in glade, resulting in \"Label\" in po, another uses 'Label'
18:44:17 <jralls> Might as well unify that. I prefer double quotes for English.
18:44:43 <fell> I like them more, too.
18:45:42 <fell> So where I have to change Forwrd->Next, I will adjust all quoting.
18:45:42 <jralls> Ah, now I understand: That's what you were asking about.
18:46:58 <jralls> Right. The thing to watch out for is \". That's an escape for when you need to have a double quote inside a double-quote delimited string literal.
18:47:32 <jralls> So if you encounter 'Forward' in a C string you'll change it to \"Next\".
18:47:47 <fell> Yes, I have to sistinguish xml:glade and C
19:47:25 <chris> A radical solution to the bloated mess problem is to remove it completely, and expose reports via HTTPS :-/
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23:18:42 <jralls> chris: You mean send them to the primary browser? Wouldn't want to do that via http/https because it would require the user to run a web server. But we *could* send the same temp file to the primary browser instead of an embeded GnuCash window. It's not pretty but it would work.
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23:24:55 <peanutbutterandcrackers> /msg NickServ CONFIRM 4vKbHkJzg
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23:38:17 <peanutbutterandcrackers> Hey there, I'm trying to automate daily invoicing using python-gnucash, but can't properly understand the machine-generated documentation. For instance, in my attempts at writing the script, I came across the invoice.PostToAccount() method call here: https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/master/bindings/python/example_scripts/simple_invoice_insert.py but on seeing the python help, it just says that it takes '*args'. How do I know what the
23:38:18 <peanutbutterandcrackers> method takes?
23:39:47 <peanutbutterandcrackers> There are others where the python help simply says that it takes either **arg, **kwarg or *meth_func_args; now is there someplace I can go to to know exactly what named parameters the methods take? I'd be incredibly grateful for the help.
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