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16:01:40 <fell> Why does LANG=C gnucash --version return 'GnuCash 3.900 development version' for maint?
16:02:13 <jralls> Uh-oh. Somebody messed up a merge.
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16:08:31 <fell> thetedmunds commit was based on master
16:10:09 <fell> commit aa53c23
16:10:20 <fell> was the merge
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16:13:05 <jralls> fell: Thanks. I'll revert it and pull in just the fin.scm change.
16:15:17 <fell> welcome, jralls
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16:31:16 <jralls> fell: Fixed, though the github update barfed so it won't show up there until someone pushes another commit.
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16:38:45 * gjanssens is setting up a new Windows VM for gnucash
16:38:58 <gjanssens> Boy is Windows update slow :(
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16:43:50 <jralls> gjanssens: You're probably getting the April 2019 update, it's supposed to be pretty big. If you're starting from more than a few months ago you might be getting several huge updates.
16:45:01 <gjanssens> Well, it's a Win7 VM as I don't have a Win10 install disk handy
16:45:21 <gjanssens> I suppose that's a *huge* amount of updates to install...
16:45:30 <gjanssens> (172 to be exact)
16:45:43 <jralls> So you're updating from Win7 to Win10? Yeah, should be ready this weekend sometime. ;-)
16:46:00 <gjanssens> Would it do so automatically ?
16:46:16 <gjanssens> I have just run Windows Update, but didn't look at the details...
16:46:53 <gjanssens> Luckily the VM is on my server, so it can run as long as it likes
16:47:28 <jralls> I'm not sure. When Win10 first came out MS let users upgrade whatever to it for free for the first year or so, then wanted money. With Win7 going out of support this summer they may have decided to go back to free updates.
16:49:30 <gjanssens> We'll see.
16:49:51 <gjanssens> I may buy me a Win10 installer at some point.
16:50:12 <gjanssens> As it's been years since I bought Windows software, I don't even know where to start any more :)
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16:53:06 <jralls> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/b/windows
16:54:30 <gjanssens> tx
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17:01:28 <jralls> gjanssens: Any thoughts on the best way to get guile stable 2-20 with my patches (submitted upstream, we'll see if they care enough to merge them) into the windows build system?
17:02:39 <jralls> The choices I can think of are: Make a tarball and put it on Sourceforge, make a pacman package and put it on Sourceforge, or clone the repo to github.
17:02:50 <jralls> The first seems the simplest.
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17:04:24 <gjanssens> Let's start with your first option and put a tarball on sourceforge.
17:04:35 <gjanssens> That lets us move on
17:04:44 <jralls> OK.
17:04:57 <gjanssens> Did you also submit patches for the MSYS2 repository ?
17:05:26 <gjanssens> It would be nice if we could just install guile from pacman, but it's really just that: nice to have
17:12:12 <jralls> The MSys repository only has guile for msys, not for mingw, and we can't use it because it links cygwin libs.
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17:14:23 <gjanssens> Oh right. Thanks for the reminder...
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17:15:02 <gjanssens> Anyway, that's all for tonight. I'm heading to bed
17:15:05 <gjanssens> Good night!
17:15:12 <jralls> Night!
17:15:23 <gjanssens> (Updates installed: 156 of 172)
17:15:34 <jralls> ;-)
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17:16:37 <fell> And who will run the expected 10 reboots?
17:21:40 <jralls> It does that itself nowadays.
17:22:05 <jralls> Whether you want it to or not, so don't leave any work open overnight.
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18:12:42 <fell> jralls: about hellipsis: We are 60 month after 14.04. Do we still want to support it?
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18:18:25 <jralls> fell: That's not easy to answer. We picked that as the minimum requirement back when we started working on what became 3.x and historically we've stuck with that for the duration of a stable series. I think if we're going to change we should discuss it on the dev list. We should also be thinking about what we want to set for minimum requirements for 4.x.
18:21:02 <fell> OK, you have more background. will you start the thread - not neccessary immediate?
18:21:03 <jralls> fell: But is using \u2026 really such a big deal that we change it?
18:21:46 <jralls> For that matter, have you tested in Ubuntu 14.04 to see if gcc 4.8 will handle the escape correctly?
18:22:02 <fell> No, only because it is suggested at least since Gnome3.
18:26:59 <jralls> I think that you're reading too much into that HIG paragraph; I believe the HIG is written by the design team. They work mostly Glade where unicode isn't a problem.
18:28:39 <jralls> So one solution is to track down all of the hard-coded menus and convert them to UI files.
18:31:13 <jralls> IMO that's preferable to sticking \u2026 in C files because you then need a translator comment for each one explaining what it's for.
18:31:36 <fell> OK, I believe, we have more urgent things to do.
18:31:38 <jralls> BTW, did you know that some languages have different characters for ellipsis? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis#Computer_representations
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18:34:35 <fell> Different languages also use different quotation symbols.
18:35:02 <jralls> I know about those from taking French in high school.
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20:36:21 <fell> @tell chris I wrote https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation#Mask_Unintended_Line_Breaks special for you. ;-)
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22:37:39 <fell> @tell chris ninja dist returns: ninja: error: '../../borrowed/guile-json/COPYING', needed by 'gnucash-3.5.tar.gz', missing and no known rule to make it
22:37:39 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
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23:10:25 <fell> We have COPYING in .gitignore, but in borrowed/guile-json/CMakeLists.txt: set_local_dist(guile-json_DIST_LOCAL ... COPYING
23:10:32 <fell> jralls?
23:12:32 <fell> Should I git add -f?
23:13:53 <fell> or remove it from CMakeLists.txt?
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