2019-04-20 GnuCash IRC logs
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02:06:45 <chris> .
02:06:45 <gncbot> chris: Sent 11 hours and 42 minutes ago: <jralls> there's more to the string port problem than a few currency symbols. In some locales Guile crashes at https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/gnucash/gnucash-bin.c#L534, https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796728
02:06:46 <gncbot> chris: Sent 9 hours and 45 minutes ago: <fell> Do we really need all the hard linebreaks in gnucash/report/standard-reports/income-gst-statement.scm:43? IMHO at the end of a para \n or \n\n is ok, but inside a sentence?
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02:18:58 <Mechtilde> .
02:20:11 <chris> fell all these linebreaks are merely for convenience and for code clarity; html doesn't care, nor do I; if you wish to change go ahead
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02:51:59 <chris> jralls struggling to build on windows... some steps missing in the wiki
02:52:17 <chris> e.g. can't find jhbuildrc -- can see jhbuildrc.in
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03:22:46 <Mechtilde> I comment to #797121
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03:23:16 <Mechtilde> is there an option to get gnucash running with mariadb?
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03:50:16 <KevinDB> mikee: lock-in? ;-)
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04:07:12 <Mechtilde> Is it possible and oppertune to rollback to XML from mariadb?
04:16:21 <mikee> KevinDB: :)
04:18:16 * chris miss British ales
04:18:44 <gjanssens> Mechtilde: you can use File->Save As to save back to xml. That should be supported and working.
04:19:37 <gjanssens> chris: I suspect fell's issue with the line breaks is it affects translations.
04:20:06 <Mechtilde> first I try an update of mariadb from 10.3.13 to 10.3.14
04:22:04 <Mechtilde> then I try the rollback to XML and change my backup strategy
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04:32:34 <Mechtilde> it doesn't work with mariadb 10.3.14 too
04:35:31 <gjanssens> That's unfortunate :(
04:35:47 <gjanssens> chris: I'm catching up on the gnucash-user list
04:36:16 <gjanssens> I see you have suggested a user to apply patches to fix the Turkish Lira issue (or to hold off for gnucash 3.6)
04:36:33 <chris> correct; it does work on my Win10 but I feel is the wrong approach
04:36:38 <gjanssens> Did you already apply fixes for this on maint or is this still under review ?
04:36:43 <chris> no I didn't apply
04:36:46 <gjanssens> Ok
04:37:19 <gjanssens> I just wanted to mention you could direct the user to a nightly build in case you have applied a fix.
04:37:25 <gjanssens> Doesn't apply yet in this case...
04:37:59 <chris> I feel the root cause is guile-2.0's string-ports not using unicode and is better to either (1) use guile-2.2 on windows which will probably fix this or (2) apply the monkey-patch to fix string-ports-functions to use unicode
04:38:23 <chris> the patch I offered in -user is mainly avoid string-ports functions, which means *all* similar functions must be hunted down...
04:41:01 <chris> the thread in guile-user does summarise the issues as well
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04:44:11 <chris> typo: guile-2.0's string-ports functions not using UTF-8
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05:00:20 <gjanssens> chris: that's fair enough
05:01:01 <gjanssens> Wasn't jralls trying to get guile 2.2 built and running on Windows ? I don't know how far he got with that though
05:01:48 <chris> correct he said it crashed
05:02:54 <chris> https://code.gnucash.org/logs/2019/04/18.html#T13:40:49
05:03:19 <chris> I wonder if it's the same crash as https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796728
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05:52:01 <gjanssens> chris: ah, I had missed that comment
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06:27:28 <Mechtilde> I did a further comment to issue 797121
06:27:39 <Mechtilde> I looked into my update logs
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06:49:39 <gjanssens> Tx Mechtilde
06:51:49 <Mechtilde> gjanssens, if you need more detailed inforamtion please ask
06:55:33 <Mechtilde> I have no idea where I can look deeper for the reason
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09:40:39 <fell> chris. I hope, I will not forget. But for the future avoid them as *gettext = (N ...), (_ ...) does not ignore them and forces translators in some cases to use the same number of "\n"s.
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11:10:04 <honestemu> Can anyone point me to sources that might help me automate gnucash like mint.com?
11:10:14 <fell> jralls: Is gettext (msg* commands) on MacOs availabe?
11:12:48 <fell> honestemu: I don't know mint.com, but did you see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Python_Bindings?
11:21:37 <honestemu> fell: Yeah. That's pretty nice. But I think this might get me closer: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect
11:22:02 <honestemu> Unfortunately, it doesn't seem very easy to set up with Bank of America.
11:23:25 <honestemu> It seems like they only support Quicken or something.
11:24:47 <fell> AFAIK AqBanking will fake Quicken.
11:25:46 <honestemu> Oh. So Bank of America thinks it's interacting with a Quicken account?
11:25:48 <fell> Just try the assistent (Tools->Onlinebanking)
11:26:49 <honestemu> Yeah. I don't think it is a problem with gnucash. I think I literally can't find where to apply for OFX DirectConnect in Bank of America.
11:26:59 <honestemu> lol
11:32:38 <fell> Do they have something on their website?
11:32:52 <honestemu> fell: I'm looking.
11:33:07 <honestemu> I think you need a Small Business account or something.
11:33:50 <fell> Or ask on the email list gnucash-user?
11:35:40 <honestemu> Yeah. I'll ask if I don't find anything after doing ample research.
11:40:48 <fell> Some users added https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings#Notes_on_banks
11:41:36 <honestemu> Sick.
11:41:51 <honestemu> fell: Thanks! I'll give them a call at some point.
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11:42:26 <fell> But I don't know, how recent the entries are.
11:42:35 <honestemu> Yeah.
11:42:50 <honestemu> Oh no. Capital one isn't supported. :(
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11:45:34 <fell> There is an entry in the table for banking and a note on CCs
11:56:29 <honestemu> Yeah. The credit card is what I would need.
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12:29:54 <Mechtilde> jralls, I sent the table description to https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797121
12:35:05 <Mechtilde> it is timestamp instead of datetime
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13:08:18 <Mechtilde> jralls, thank it works only for new entries. so I have to reconcile the old entries with the bank account again.
13:09:01 <Mechtilde> and delete the old entries
13:14:03 <jralls> fell: Re: gettext tools, not natively but yes in MacPorts/Homebrew and my jhbuild build environment.
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13:15:10 <Mechtilde> jralls, I commented it to bugzilla too
13:15:36 <jralls> Mechtilde: Just got the bugmail.
13:16:26 <jralls> Let's keep the discussion there so that it's coherent history.
13:23:31 <jralls> fell: BTW, the gettext tools are also available in the MSYS2 environment we use for Win32 builds.
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14:28:49 <jralls> fell: Because the way Guile compilation is set up in common/cmake_modules/GncAddSchemeTargets.cmake make/ninja doesn't know about the *.go files so it builds them just about every time.
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