2019-04-05 GnuCash IRC logs

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14:14:00 <jralls> @tell Robert847 Make darn sure that you use X11 and not Wayland with Gtk2 apps like GnuCash 2.6 and The GIMP. Gtk2 doesn't have a Wayland backend so it uses an X11 compatibility mode that has some issues.
14:14:00 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
14:16:49 <jralls> mikee: Scotland and Northern Ireland also mostly voted remain. Maybe all 3 could ditch the English and unite with Eire to stay in.
14:49:05 <jralls> @tell warlord Would it be feasible for the nightly Doxygen build to also build gnucash.pot and put it in code/docs so that motivated translators could get a more up-to-date version than the one in the tarball without having to set up a build environment?
14:49:05 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
14:58:43 <frakturfreak> jralls: If Scotland and Northern Ireland were to seperate there won’t any United Kingdom anymore since the Wales was incorporated into England long ago from a political point of view. If that would happen anytime it would remind of the Franconians in Bavaria here in Germany.
15:00:43 <jralls> frakturefreak: Technically only Scotland need split (and that's a major plank in the ruling SNP's platform) for it to no longer be the United Kingdom, as it's the union of the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingodom of England under James VI/I that made the UK.
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15:02:25 <jralls> Wales and Northern Ireland are indeed another matter entirely, though each at least nominally have some sort of home parliament and limited self-rule.
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15:25:46 <frakturfreak> jralls: If only Scotland were to split would the remaining country be called united kingdom of England and Northern Ireland, the whole thing is bit problematic
15:26:40 <frakturfreak> Because can the some provinces of Ulster that remained in the Union still be seen as a continuation of the Kingdom of Ireland or is the Northern Ireland part in the Name just a geographic term?
15:33:54 <jralls> fracturfreak: They might continue to call it that. The whole "Kingdom of Ireland" thing is kind of problematic: It was never independent of England, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ireland#Background.
15:38:38 <jralls> Ulster, incidentally, is not the same as Northern Ireland. Ulster is one of the old provinces of Ireland, the others being Connacht, Leinster, and Munster. Three counties of Ulster are in the Repbublic: Cavan, Donnegal, and Monaghan.
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16:00:27 <frakturfreak> jralls: Sorry I’ve got my terminology wrong I meant some counties of Ulster
16:00:41 <frakturfreak> not provinces of ulster
16:00:54 <frakturfreak> jralls: basically, yes you’re right
16:03:29 <jralls> So since the "Kingdom of Ireland" was confected by Henry VIII after his departure from the Catholic Church made his "Lordship of Ireland" invalid, I suppose the English parliament can say that it still exists in Northern Ireland if they want to.
16:04:41 <jralls> The Unionists in Northern Ireland will agree and the Republicans on both sides of the border won't. We can only hope that they won't go back to shooting each other over it.
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17:17:13 <frakturfreak> Yes
17:26:48 <jralls> fell, gjanssens: I'm trying to figure out how to change the sentence milotype flagged in https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/476 as not getting translated. I want to wrap it in php sprintf() so that I can move the URL out of the translated part but I don't understand <?= T_() ?>. Why isn't it <?php _() ?> ?
17:28:30 <gjanssens> jralls: good question. It has been a while...
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17:33:42 <gjanssens> jralls: from externals:gettext.inc:
17:33:46 <gjanssens> // Wrappers to use if the standard gettext functions are available,
17:33:48 <gjanssens> // but the current locale is not supported by the system.
17:33:49 <gjanssens> // Use the standard impl if the current locale is supported, use the
17:33:51 <gjanssens> // custom impl otherwise.
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17:34:25 <gjanssens> So it looks like this is a safety wrapper to make translations work still if the given language is not installed on the system
17:34:55 <gjanssens> Whether that's still useful/needed with today's php, I have no idea.
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17:41:41 <jralls> @tell gjanssens Thanks. I'm pretty new to php, I have no idea what was needed for php2 when the website was written. It's probably way past time to redo it for php7.
17:41:41 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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23:14:07 <fell> jralls, on htdocs, did you run 'make mos' after changing de.po?
23:17:30 <fell> I see no update of locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/gnucash-htdocs.mo in your commits.