2019-03-23 GnuCash IRC logs
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02:40:04 <gjanssens> .
02:40:04 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 7 hours and 14 minutes ago: <fell> The translatable entities in gnc-docbookx.dtd are problematic. Do we really want the translators edit it? But perhaps there is some ITS solution.
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02:48:49 <gjanssens> fell: re gnucash-htdocs PR#22 -> good point to stick with php
02:49:08 <gjanssens> I'll look at the translatable entities issue later...
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05:23:35 * chris quite likes that a Transaction has Splits... nothing wrong with that... much bigger fish to fry
05:24:05 <chris> no need to change >20yrs of development
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07:52:09 <gjanssens> chris: I think not much will change after all... and frankly I don't care that much about it.
07:52:41 <gjanssens> But I think it's important to give our community members a voice as well which is why I do support the discussion itself
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07:53:39 <chris> good plan
07:53:40 <gjanssens> I like Michael's last message in which he mostly proposes small tweaks to the documentation and perhaps a few interface names (compound vs multi-split for example)
07:54:07 <chris> and this helps dislodges a couple inconsistencies in Transaction Report's rendering of 1/2/2+ split transactions
07:54:12 <chris> which I can fix for 3.5
07:54:42 <gjanssens> Which would of course be great :)
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07:56:33 <chris> It's the "Transfer To/From" column - could be labelled "--None--" and "--Compound Transaction--" for 1 and 3-split txns?
07:57:10 <chris> currently shows "Split Transaction" for both cases
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08:07:03 <chris> The difficult part is that Primary-Sortkey = Other-Account will lead to both 1-split and 3-split txns being grouped together, and it's too hard to separate them
08:07:21 <chris> but the Display/Other-Account-Name can be amended easily
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11:37:22 <bsd4me> I've been using gnucash on linux since 2016. Is it possible to move gnucash to my mac? I've downloaded gnucash onto my mac, but want to know what files I need to copy from linux, if possible, to continue using gnucash.
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11:38:15 <chris> I think I'll merge balsheet-pnl.scm some time this week -- if not it'll stagnate. It will be in Experimental submenu.
11:41:12 <fell> I am wondering how we are affected by G+ shutdowns: https://developers.google.com/+/integrations-shutdown
11:41:50 <fell> 1. we have a G+ button in htdocs.
11:42:45 <fell> 2. Are groups (Gnucash, Gnucash on android) also affected?
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11:45:06 <Mechtilde> fell As I know yes
11:45:16 <Mechtilde> also groups are affected
11:45:38 <Mechtilde> we had the same problem with Apache OpenOffice
11:47:12 <fell> Thx, Mechtilde.
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12:59:21 <fell> gjanssens: Another question about docs dtd. You linked it in the respective subdirs. Will that not fail under windows?
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13:13:25 <jralls> chris: Remind me (again?) how a 1-split transaction isn't an error?
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13:18:49 <jralls> bsd4me: Your datafiles, obviously. As many or as few logfiles (xxx.gnucash.yyyymmddhhmmss.log) and backups (xxx.gnucash.yyyymmddhhmmss.gnucash) as you like. Those will be in the same directory as the datafiles. You'll probably also want to move your configuration files. See for where they are on your Linux box and where they go on your Mac.
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13:19:16 <jralls> bsd4me: Sorry, URL got lost: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations
13:22:02 <bsd4me> jralls: thank you!
13:22:51 <jralls> bsd4me: NP
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20:09:58 <chris> jralls you can do from register- enter a date, a description, and press ENTER
20:10:10 <chris> there's no transfer account
20:20:29 <fell> chris: https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-docs/pull/118 is ready or should I delay it a few days?
20:21:36 <fell> I can also first apply the other docs-PRs
20:22:41 <chris> from my POV it's done...
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20:28:56 <chris> jralls a single-split txn may have num/action/desc/notes, and zero-amount
20:29:28 <jralls> chris: IOW an ugly hack. OK.
20:29:34 <chris> it's balanced therefore no Imbalance-CUR other-account is created
20:29:59 <chris> so the question is whether Transaction Report should be fixed to report them properly?
20:30:36 <chris> I quite like them, they allow me to create freetext notes in accounts
20:33:44 <jralls> I suppose that as long as the Transaction Report is just listing and summing the transactions it can include those. Anything involving counts should exclude them.
20:34:02 <jralls> What does the TR do now?
20:34:26 <chris> the "Transfer From/To" reports "Split Transaction"
20:34:40 <chris> also Sortkey-Header says "Split Tranasction"
20:35:24 <chris> my PR changes to "--None--" for 1-split and "--Compound Transaction--" for >2split
20:39:20 <chris> I've just tested and this single-split does not cause any report crash
20:40:11 <jralls> So it's just a semantic issue. OK.
20:40:47 <jralls> If we're changing the nomenclature from "Split Transaction" to "Compound Transaction" we need to do that *everywhere*.
20:42:33 <jralls> And maybe instead of overtly printing --None-- we should just print nothing so that it doesn't create a new string to translate. If we keep --None-- it will need a translator comment explaining what it's about.
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20:49:34 <chris> ok i'll amend
20:53:55 <chris> there's also the sortkey=other-account subheading renderer which also expects a string - it's too difficult to separate none / compound txns hence the screenshot writes "None/Compound"
20:54:36 <chris> (also any objections to merging balsheet-pnl in Experimental submenu?)
20:55:13 <chris> brb
20:55:54 <jralls> Re experimental, no objections. That's a reasonable way to get new reports to users.
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