2019-03-21 GnuCash IRC logs
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02:04:16 <karelk> I have following option selected in "Preferences"
02:04:19 <karelk> "Register" -> "Reconciling" -> "Automatic credit card payment"
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02:06:15 <karelk> warlord: you said, "the payment dialog will only pop up if there is a payment due, and it wont pop up if I do include subaccounts"
02:06:49 <karelk> I am not sure what exactly you mean by that
02:07:13 <karelk> if reconciliation is non-zero, there will always be payment due
02:07:44 <karelk> and I do not include subaccounts
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02:07:59 <karelk> yet, I still do not get the pop up payment dialog
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07:03:32 <chris> .
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07:19:11 <gjanssens> chris: your fix for end of month is much less complex as you had me believe yesterday :)
07:19:11 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 8 hours and 9 minutes ago: <chris> I can imagine that load_reports() be removed from startup, and is moved into the xml-load-file mechanism, and must be added piecemeal to other formats
07:19:12 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 8 hours and 9 minutes ago: <chris> save-reports should be straightforward if I have the API
07:19:13 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 8 hours and 6 minutes ago: <chris> so, report.scm must have a new exported routine (gnc:load-all-reports)
07:19:14 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 7 hours and 56 minutes ago: <chris> which will retrive saved-reports from somewhere and populate *gnc:_report-templates_* ... and this is easy to/from (xaccAccountGetNotes root) ^_
07:19:41 <chris> so, no more concerns about guile being too concise :)
07:20:32 <gjanssens> nope
07:21:03 <gjanssens> I'm learning as you go :)
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07:36:38 <chris> there's another path to save-reports, different from gnc:save-all-reports... it's the "open reports in tabs" reports do NOT call gnc:save-all-reports... I don't know how/where they're called.
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08:24:54 <gjanssens> chris: I think that's not exactly the same code.
08:25:35 <gjanssens> At least it wasn't before I worked on it.
08:26:01 <gjanssens> I may have refactored it to use the same report serializing code
08:27:42 <gjanssens> Anyway the "open reports in tabs" are stored in the book's metafile (GNC_DATA_HOME/books/<book>.gcm)
08:28:03 <gjanssens> That file is formatted like a Windows .ini file rather than scheme code
08:28:25 <gjanssens> Let me find the initial entry points for loading and saving for you...
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08:34:58 <gjanssens> chris: saving the open tabs starts at gnc_main_window_restore_all_windows in https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/gnucash/gnome-utils/gnc-main-window.c#L913
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08:35:44 <warlord> I think that ini-file stuff is just names and window sizes -- I don't think it has the report "scheme" code in there, does it?
08:35:49 <gjanssens> That will iterate over each window via gnc_main_window_restore_window in https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/gnucash/gnome-utils/gnc-main-window.c#L653
08:36:20 <gjanssens> warlord: it does store the scheme code to restore the report with its options
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08:38:18 <warlord> Oh. Okay.
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08:47:55 <chris> so much mess
08:49:38 <warlord> lol
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08:57:07 <gjanssens> Sorry got interrupted here...
08:58:49 <gjanssens> Eventually the function will iterate over each tab and call gnc_main_window_restore_page for each: https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/gnucash/gnome-utils/gnc-main-window.c#L565
08:59:02 <gjanssens> And now we're almost at the end of the chain
09:00:05 <gjanssens> This function will call gnc_plugin_page_recreate_page which depending on the page type as found in the meta file will run a specialized version of this.
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09:04:00 <gjanssens> For report windows that's https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/gnucash/report/report-gnome/gnc-plugin-page-report.c#L893
09:04:10 <gjanssens> gnc_plugin_page_report_recreate_page
09:05:39 <chris> aha #L935 scm_id = scm_c_eval_string(option_string);
09:06:34 <gjanssens> Indeed. It reads scheme code from the "SchemeOptions" parameter in that file and the subsequently tries to evaluate it.
09:07:27 <gjanssens> Note that should have used gfec instead of direct scm_c_eval_string now that we see it.
09:07:52 <gjanssens> If scm_c_eval_string throws I think that would crash gnucash :(
09:10:20 <gjanssens> Yes, confirmed that's a potential gnucash crasher...
09:10:51 <gjanssens> Now for the other way around (save open reports) it's much the same path
09:12:12 <gjanssens> It starts with gnc_main_window_save_all_windows -> gnc_main_window_save_window -> gnc_main_window_save_page to eventually end up in gnc_plugin_page_report_save_page
09:12:15 <gjanssens> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/gnucash/report/report-gnome/gnc-plugin-page-report.c#L813
09:13:13 <gjanssens> It will call into guile functions to do the actual serialization from there
09:13:41 <gjanssens> There's a loop to serialize embedded reports in case of a multi-column report as well
09:14:37 <warlord> gjanssens, expand gfec?
09:18:00 <chris> I think this is enough pointers for now
09:18:43 <chris> right now i'll try fix average-balance.scm
09:18:47 <gjanssens> warlord: from the gfec.c source file: gfec stands for 'guile fancy error catching'.
09:19:01 <chris> 748431
09:19:24 <gjanssens> It consists of a few convenience functions that wrap staight calls to guile functions with an exception handler
09:19:52 <gjanssens> Using these convenience wrappers prevent gnucash from crashing in case guile throws an error that would otherwise be uncaught.
09:20:14 <gjanssens> I only learned of its existence when I was converting gnucash to guile 2
09:20:32 <gjanssens> (These wrappers are part of our gnucash code by the way, not guile)
09:25:20 <warlord> Ah. ok.
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09:26:40 <warlord> (I thought maybe it was like gnc_f..._e..._c...()
09:26:48 <warlord> .. or something like that)
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09:32:10 <chris> guile_forward_error_correction would have been very fancy
09:35:12 <warlord> chris, lol
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09:51:06 <gjanssens> :)
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10:01:43 <chris> it's scary that i built a custom tight loop to calculate interval averages and it ran first time O_o
10:02:00 <warlord> chris, good for you! :)
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16:25:18 <GNUtoo> hi, as I understand gnucash is typically used for accounting, but can it also be used to do some calculations for the business plan?
16:26:41 <GNUtoo> For instance to record ongoing costs (monthly / yearly) and understand how much to charge from that for instance
16:27:22 <jralls> Gnutoo: Do you have records of actual past costs in GnuCash?
16:31:19 <GNUtoo> I've projected costs in libreoffice calc, but I wondered if I could use gnucash instead
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17:21:36 <jralls> GNUToo: Not without first having actual data to project from. If you haven't yet started operating then a spreadsheet is the way to go.
17:23:27 <GNUtoo> ok thanks a lot!
17:23:44 <GNUtoo> So when I start operating, switching to GNU cash will probably be a good idea
17:24:04 <GNUtoo> (and not before)
17:24:45 <jralls> Right.
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