2019-03-04 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:26:49 <chris> thanks fell :)
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06:42:52 <warlord> .
06:43:47 <warlord> chris, you can just include the .h file. I THINK it is %include to have the APIs pulled in automatically.
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07:36:33 <chris> thanks warlord... I managed to get gjanssens's old branch which did wrap Recurrence.h but didn't manage to set recurrence... something like swig can't convert scheme's numbers into guint16. I'll make do without.
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07:51:22 <warlord> NOt sure why I'm having such network issues here.
07:52:13 <warlord> chris, where is there a conversion from scheme-int to guint16? You can fix that by defining a conversion in the .i file to properly map it.
07:54:51 <chris> recurrenceSet, but I ended up not needing to call it...
07:57:42 <warlord> Oh, the mult parameter. I think you can just set a swig typdef for gunit16.
07:59:14 <chris> it's ok... i decided to use the default budget (monthly from today, for 6 periods)
08:17:49 * chris still wonders why the move away from guile... is it just the learning curve, or is it because it's too easy to write bad code in guile?
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08:30:05 <gour> chris: is the 'move away from guile' just in general or something specific is already planned?
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08:32:11 *** ChanServ changes topic to "Free GPL Personal and Small Business Accounting || Moderated mode: To get a voice, register with NickServ and then re-join. || Please don't ask to ask, just ask and wait! (Possibly a few hours!!) || publicly-logged channel || latest stable: 3.4 || www.gnucash.org || wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/"
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09:59:35 <warlord> gour, I think it's lack of ease for "write your own reports"
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10:19:22 <warlord> fell, I updated the page to discuss the channel moderation we are doing, and how I set it up to auto-voice users.
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10:26:34 <fell> Warlord: Fine. Because this bits are not very well documented by official IRC documentation and differ between the different IRC nets.
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10:34:16 <f3reespirit> /msg NickServ CONFIRM tanxKLj9V
10:35:29 <f3reespirit> /msg nickserv identify f3reespirit C^Vm`C{nAk;-x>?959c!~j}p`jcX)aTp
10:37:15 <warlord> f3reespirit, Not sure you wanted to do that in-channel...
10:37:49 <warlord> fell, yeah, I had to somewhat figure it out.
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10:49:27 <f3reespirit> Hi, I use Fedora 29 in English (to be able to follow tutorials and forum posts easier that are mostly English) and need gnucash to start in German (to have the financial terms like in my paperwork). Found a lot of posts with that question, but didn't got it figured out. Can someone help me (a none-dev person) with this?
10:51:19 <fell> f3reespirit: f3reespirit>
10:51:31 <fell> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Konfiguration
10:51:55 <fell> or https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings
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11:39:36 <f3reespirit> I am able to get gnucash started in German once with: LANGUAGE=de_DE LANG=de_DE gnucash But if I click the gnucash Icon it starts in English. I can't find a way start gnucash by default in German. I found the File /usr/bin/gnucash but did not understand how to edit it for permanence language change from the wiki Links?
11:40:45 <warlord> f3reespirit, is your system environment not in german?
11:42:30 <f3reespirit> No, must stay English US
11:42:51 <warlord> Then change the Icon to set the LANG and LANGUAGE settings.
11:43:01 <warlord> I don't recall if /etc/gnucash/environment has any effect on Linux
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11:46:37 <f3reespirit> Ok, I try it. Also maybe we should make a feature request out of this? I saw a lot of people that want to run the OS in English but gnucash in their mother tongue, because the financial terms are way to complicate to figure out in English also?
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11:47:36 <warlord> f3reespirit, GnuCash supports it just fine -- you just have to tell it. The way to tell is it to set the LANG and LANGUAGE vars.
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11:53:43 <f3reespirit> I am in GnuCash Version 3.4 in the Preferences and Properties and can't see it. How do I set German as a default in the gnucash Menu?
11:59:47 <fell> f3reespirit, you could try the method described in https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings#Changing_the_Language_on_Windows
12:00:59 <fell> but I don't know, where the file gets installed by your distribution
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12:08:53 <f3reespirit> Okay i will try that out next. Thank you guys for the help so far (Is my first IRC Chat).
12:08:56 <fell> Ok, it should be /etc/gnucash/environment.local
12:10:08 <fell> because /etc/gnucash/environment will be overwritten in th next update
12:11:29 <fell> but you can use that file as an example.
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12:14:24 <f3reespirit> So I only have the File: environment in that folder, should I create a new file named: envirament.local first?
12:14:52 <warlord> Yes
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12:23:47 <f3reespirit> Should I delete everything else in the file or should i paste the two Variables just at the top of the enviraments.local file?
12:23:55 <f3reespirit> I don't want to destroy stuff I don't understand that is why I ask
12:25:14 <fell> I would simply copy environment to environment.local, uncomment and adjust the required lines.
12:26:31 <fell> ... or onlycopy the [section] and adjust it.
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12:30:22 <f3reespirit> It worked! Never did something that complicated before. Thanks a lot!
12:33:42 <fell> Probably your setup is complicated. I don't understand why people want their environment in C instead of their language+region.
12:35:35 <fell> I am often testing localization parts. The I set LANG=ar or whatever, but my environment has LANG=de:DE.utf8
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12:59:02 <f3reespirit> Its because I need some applications for my 3D work that have a small English community and not a lot of Germans.And I do 3D every day I figured it is easier to have my OS in English and are able to follow the Forums and tutorials, instead of have to translate them in German all the time. Also I find more tutorials for Linux itself in English. However in gnucash I need the German translation because finance terms are
12:59:02 <f3reespirit> complicated enough in my German paperwork and I don't want to translate them every time I use gnucash basically.
13:00:26 <fell> How about setting the system to de and the 3d app to C
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13:32:32 <f3reespirit> Would result in much more work for me, to set up all the applications. I use around 25 Applications for my 2d and 3d work with Plug-Ins, Add-Ons, ... Also I find more newbie friendly forums and help for Linux itself (I use Fedora and Solus on my Workstations). Basically gnucash is the only application i rally need in German. I think a lot of people need it in their mother-tong , because the finance terms are so complicated
13:32:32 <f3reespirit> to learn that no one wants to learn them all in English too. Especially because the tay buero want to have everything in German ( or Russian, ...) anyways.
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13:35:08 <f3reespirit> Basically I only need Libre Office and gnucash in German
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13:47:27 <f3reespirit> Interesting. Another reason I read why people like to have English as the default OS language is, a lot of applications don't have their mother-tong complete support. So this is another reason I didn't thought about.
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13:50:38 <Mechtilde> All people are invited to translate their prefered applications into their mother-tong
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14:04:26 <f3reespirit> I agree. Still with Blender for instance, the Application and all the AddOns and so on move along so fast that the documentation is behind even if people translate all the time. And the best tutorials are in English anyways so I don't find a good reason to use it in German. Also a lot of terms in 3d are English anyways and the industry is communicating in English mostly so a lot of 3d people are used to English, so they
14:04:26 <f3reespirit> don't want to use it in their mother-tong. It is hard to have English how-tos and than in every step you must think what that menue point "shrinkwrap" for example is now translated to in your German version. It is just extra time and brain power you want to put in your animation, because that is what the people actually see of your work you know.
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14:08:06 <f3reespirit> Ok I do some work now, thanks again for the help and for this great application. I am really happy to have it running now, it is great.
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16:43:50 <fell> warlord, in https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Operating_IRC#From_IRC_NickServ_and_ChanServ you wrote "/msg nickserv register <name> <password>", but '/msg NickServ help register' says "Syntax: REGISTER password email"
16:45:20 <fell> Did you mix it up with supybots syntax?
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16:57:21 <warlord> fell, oh, okay, feel free to fix that, then.
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16:57:28 <warlord> probably
17:09:57 <fell> done
17:12:17 <warlord> thanks.
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19:04:05 <BrianA_MN> I've run into an issue with Tax reporting for 1120S where some 12/30 and 12/31 transactions are not be included in the report for assets both inventory and cash accounts. What should I do to correct?
19:08:49 <fell> Warlord: Fine. Because this bits are not very well documented by official IRC documentation and differ between the different IRC nets.
19:09:19 <fell> BrianA_MN, US tax?
19:10:21 <fell> warlord ignore my touchpad
19:12:16 <fell> and which gnucash version?
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19:52:17 <BrianA_MN> Yes US Taxes. I'm not sure, but it seems like if I set the report to a time specific it is ignoring some imported and manually entered data. I see it in the beginning balance setting for the asset class in the TXT report itself which is then giving the wrong result. The Transaction report gives the correct result.
19:53:28 <BrianA_MN> The data being ignored is 12/30-31 data. which throws off the result.
19:54:38 <BrianA_MN> The report starts with a beginning balance from 12/29 ignores 12/30-and 12/31 then adds all the data for 2018 and gives a false result. This doesn't happen with Sole Proprietor setup only with the 1120S entity type.
19:55:56 <BrianA_MN> I didn't have the issue when running the reports in spring 2018 for 2017. So Is this a regression with a upgrade issue?
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20:38:09 <BrianA_MN> If I change the dates to 12/30 then the 12/31/2017 beginning amount is corrected in the report. I noticed this date issue within Sole Proprietor also, In that case I had a Current Account and Previous account, At the end of the year ie 12/31/20xx I would move the current total to the previous account. But it wasn't recognized as transferred out by the Transaction reports set to the calendar year, unless I changed the move for 12/30.
20:38:09 <BrianA_MN> wonder if this is an calculating issue for the reports that they are using the number from the beginning of the day and not transaction at the end of the day?
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20:45:17 <BrianA_MN> So I've gone into the asset accounts and changed the 12/31/2017 transactions to 12/30/2017 and now the asset totals in the Taxation Report match the totals in the Transaction Report for the asset. It seems to be an issue with 12/31 specifically. I wonder if it also exists if other start dates were used with the Taxation Report and the day before the reporting date has transaction?
20:59:33 <BrianA_MN> If I run the report for 2017 the same error is happening with transaction for 12/31/2016, ie those transactions are being missed and the 12/30 EOD balance is being used instead. Clearly this is either an issue with the account setup or with the report. Do individual accounts have a way to set what balance to use, ie. end-of-day or beginning-of-day?
21:21:54 <BrianA_MN> I guess the real question is should this be filed as a bug and it is critical others be aware of the issue. I'm running GNUCAsh 3.4 on Linux Slackware 14.2 64bit. Should I file a bug report?
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23:06:45 <BrianA_MN> Maybe this is related to bug 797067?
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23:09:16 <BrianA_MN> Or maybe it is related to bug 796498, Incorrect starting balance for TXF report calculations? How do I apply the patch?
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23:42:58 <BrianA_MN> Found that if I replaced the /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/taxtxf.scm with the latest commit on the file then the 1120S reports are calulated correctly. Going to check the sole proprietor accounts in a minute.
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