2019-03-02 GnuCash IRC logs

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01:58:19 <Mechtilde> fell_laptop, are you awake? can you stop messing the channel
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06:10:58 <gncbot> Moondhum: Sent 1 year, 7 weeks, 4 days, 12 hours, and 40 minutes ago: <lmat> I can't tell what you mean by manually removed ... .gnucash . The .gnucash data file?
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07:08:38 <Aussie_matt> hi guys, can anyone help me enter in a bonus stock issue, it was given to share holders for free, but I'm having trouble entering zero cost?
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07:17:20 <Simon> Aussie_matt: use the "Split" action
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07:18:07 <Simon> Aussie_matt: (it may not be strictly correct but that's what I used)
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07:19:53 <Aussie_matt> Simon: hey, thanks for reply... yeah, I'm trying split but it's not behaving
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07:22:16 <Aussie_matt> Simon: so I've got a split happening, I get given 16 shares, for zero cost, but it keeps putting a 1 on a separate line in the cost column?
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07:23:31 <Aussie_matt> Simon: ah, hell, double entry, it wants to know how they were paid for yes???
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07:48:51 <warlord> hey fell -- we are under spammer attack!
07:49:00 <warlord> gjanssens, ...
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07:57:05 <warlord> fell, they are coming in from all over.. no coherent names or IPs.
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07:57:09 <warlord> banning individually wont work..
07:57:21 <warlord> Sort of turning on complete moderation on the channel, I don't know what to do.
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07:59:25 <warlord> fell, I feel you are fighting a losing battle with trying to kickban this bot.
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07:59:53 <Yotson> Seems #opers is the network help channel. You may want to ask in there.
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08:05:43 <Simon> Aussie_matt: ignore the 1 in the second row, it doesn't need double entry
08:05:59 <Aussie_matt> Simon: oh?
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08:13:38 <gjanssens> warlord: have you contacted the #opers channel as Yotson suggested ? I'm unable to help out here as I'm finishing up my preparations to take the plane...
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08:13:56 <warlord> gjanssens, yes, ... and they are being spammed too!
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08:37:20 <gjanssens> Thanks chris
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09:30:05 <Mechtilde> fell gjanssens warlord cansomesone stop the spam hiere
09:30:16 <Mechtilde> fell gjanssens warlord can someone stop the spam here
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09:35:31 <fell> OK, I set the moderrated mode. To get a voice, ask one of the ops private.
09:35:31 <fell> It seems not to work
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09:37:53 <gjanssens> fell: I think it does work. I haven't seen a spam message after you set moderated mode
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09:38:15 <gjanssens> The spammers still connect, but no longer can set send messages
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09:53:17 <fell> Suggestions for an adjusted topic?
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09:55:21 <Yotson> "To get a voice, ask one of the ops private." perhaps? lol
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09:58:04 <chris> .
09:58:07 <chris> ooh
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10:01:19 *** fell changes topic to " Free GPL Personal and Small Business Accounting || Moderated mode: To get a voice, ask one of the ops private. || Please don't ask to ask, just ask and wait! (Possibly a few hours!!) || publicly-logged channel || latest stable: 3.4 || www.gnucash.org || wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/"
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10:05:47 <fell> Still anybody awake, who needs a voice?
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10:13:03 <fell> chris, gjanssens, warlord, can you +v nick well known nicks, too?
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10:13:43 <chris> oops
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10:21:17 <chris> one of today's commits is causing an intermittent segfault; looking back at them I cannot identify an unsafe commit :( I may wish a crash course in gdb to locate the offending call
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10:26:08 <chris> here's a stack trace - https://pastebin.com/raw/BRc7S89T - it seems running the current maint will run every alternate launch
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10:29:24 <warlord> I wonder if we can set up either Chanserv/Nickserv or gncbot to auto-voice known users?
10:30:03 <warlord> (not-)amusingly, #opers is still being spammed.
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10:31:35 * chris battling an intermittent segfault... the worst kind
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10:43:45 <Yotson> I guess #opers has less practical options for protection. As they want to be able to help users that are unidentified or otherwise have issues.
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10:47:55 <chris> Here's the interesting cause for my segfault:
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10:48:09 <chris> https://pastebin.com/raw/BRc7S89T says gethostid.c is the segfault
10:48:43 <chris> and for some reason my sudo barfs: "sudo: unable to resolve host thinkpad-x201: Name or service not known"
10:49:00 <chris> I think this made gnucash segfault
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10:51:08 <chris> it would be nice if gnc-xml-backend.cpp:691 didn't segfault when gethostid() fails
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10:53:30 <chris> I've now updated /etc/hosts which has fixed it... how odd, why did it change?
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10:53:49 <Yotson> warlord. In the channel i manage over at Freenode we decided to quiet all non-identified users. We didn't outright ban them so the channel entry message and topic can explain the reasoning and how to get a network account.
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10:59:03 <chris> phew I thought I'd damaged the tree
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12:02:48 <fell> warlord, can you fill 'The channel owner ... [TBD] ' in https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Operating_IRC#Getting_Operator_Privilegs?
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12:03:54 <fell> and review the rest.
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12:03:54 <fell> BTW did you that already for chris?
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12:09:27 <warlord> Yotson, I believe we have done that here.
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12:10:28 <warlord> fell, what exactly do I need to fill in there?
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12:15:09 <warlord> fell, I'm honestly not sure exactly what needs to be done with gncbot to add a new operator.
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12:15:16 <warlord> I've never actually dont it.
12:15:16 <warlord> done it
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12:27:49 <warlord> fell, I updated the gncbot section. I didn't update the nickerv/chanserv section.
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12:36:14 <fell> It seems so
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13:15:14 <Mechtilde> I use GnuCash with MySQL/MariaDB. Is there a known problem with saving?
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13:15:50 <Mechtilde> I can save the transaction itself but not the expense acount
13:16:10 <warlord> Mechtilde, what do you mean by that?
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13:16:34 <Mechtilde> It is difficult to explain
13:16:42 <Mechtilde> I try it step by step
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13:17:06 <Mechtilde> I take my transaction via HBCI from my bank
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13:17:36 <warlord> okay..
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13:18:14 <Mechtilde> and then I match it with my accounts like telefon, assurance, etc
13:18:28 <Mechtilde> but I can't save this matches
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13:19:46 <Mechtilde> in that column I only see the entry " equalization account"
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13:20:10 <Mechtilde> and I get a messege "to save the file automatically"
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13:20:39 <warlord> So you cannot assign the proper match account? Or are you saying that your assignments are not being saved for the next import?
13:20:39 <Mechtilde> so it seems that there is a problem with detecting the database
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13:21:18 <Mechtilde> I cannot save the assigned MATCH ACCOUNTS
13:21:27 <Mechtilde> sorry
13:21:33 <Mechtilde> for the Caps-lock
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13:22:53 <warlord> I think there's a language barrier here, so let me try a different way of asking what I want to know.
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13:23:26 <warlord> When you import a transaction, does it let you assign a destination account during the import? i.e., can you double-click on that and choose an account?
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13:23:55 <Mechtilde> yes I can
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13:24:20 <warlord> okay. and when you complete the import, the transaction is assigned to the account you specified during the import?
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13:24:52 <Mechtilde> yes
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13:25:19 <Mechtilde> then I close gnucash
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13:25:26 <fell> Mechtilde, in the imported transaction or as bayes association?
13:25:57 <Mechtilde> imported transaction
13:26:26 <warlord> Mechtilde, then you restart gnucash, and try another import, but the matching data isn't there?
13:26:34 <Mechtilde> when I close gnucash I geet the message " do you want to save the file before cloing"
13:26:46 <Mechtilde> only to start again
13:27:03 <Mechtilde> the assigned accounts are changed
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13:27:35 <warlord> When asked "do you want to save the file", what do you say?
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13:29:35 <Mechtilde> if I say "SAVE" I get the message " there is an error during processing von mysql://mechtilde@localhost/gnucash
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13:30:30 <warlord> Interesting. And obviously if you say "no", then the import bindings get lost. Are the imported transactions still there if you say "no" at this point?
13:30:34 <Mechtilde> then I close that window. I get the dialog to save the file
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13:31:17 <Mechtilde> the transactions itself
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13:31:25 <Mechtilde> are in the database
13:31:39 <Mechtilde> wichtout the assigned accounts
13:31:54 <Mechtilde> only the general balance
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13:32:13 <Mechtilde> in German "Ausgleichskonto-EUR"
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13:34:34 <Mechtilde> Mavbe "Imbalance"
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13:35:55 <warlord> So... When you import the transactions they appear with the correct accounts. But the correct accounts don't get saved?
13:36:28 <warlord> Mechtilde, yes, that definitely sounds like "Imbalance"
13:36:28 <Mechtilde> this is correct
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13:36:58 <warlord> That.... sounds like a bug. This is 3.4? If so, please file a report in bugzilla.
13:36:58 <Mechtilde> I took it from po file
13:36:58 <Mechtilde> ;-)
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13:37:22 <Mechtilde> yes it is 3.4
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13:38:19 <Mechtilde> I will more or less copy it from here
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13:38:39 <warlord> Mechtilde, good enough :)
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13:39:39 <Mechtilde> I must look for my account
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13:48:20 <Mechtilde> then I want to duplicate a transaction for the next month, I get the message the data can't be saved
13:48:33 <Mechtilde> for every split transaction
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13:49:28 <warlord> Mechtilde, thank you for testing the SQL backend.. ;)
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13:54:17 <Mechtilde> "Unable to save to database
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13:54:55 <warlord> MarceloToledo, there you go.
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13:55:26 <MarceloToledo> Nice, thank you!
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13:59:31 <MarceloToledo> Anybody here can help me with to use any invoice that have "Expense and Revenue, Active and Passive", in the same invoice? But just selected the last month?
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14:04:04 <warlord> MarceloToledo, I'm honestly not sure how to do that, or even if it can be done. Indeed, I'm not even sure what it actually means. (We don't have Passive accounts here in the US)
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14:04:46 <MarceloToledo> uauu.... I undestood...
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14:07:49 <MarceloToledo> I had any problens to use it... and, I have seen some errors in a vendor report, where the same report works for one vendor, but when I switch to another vendor, It can not display anything. I could not identify any problem in registering any of them ...
14:08:14 <Mechtilde> you mean liability
14:08:21 <Mechtilde> for Passiva
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14:09:24 <MarceloToledo> Yes, that it... I sorry because my poor English
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14:10:12 <Mechtilde> I look in the *.po file
14:10:21 <MarceloToledo> There are many technical terms that I do not know completely about accounting.
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14:11:06 <Mechtilde> what is your native language
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14:11:59 <Mechtilde> warlord, that is the bug report: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797121
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14:13:06 <MarceloToledo> good, I'll try to report
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14:18:21 <warlord> Mechtilde, thanks
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14:18:57 <MarceloToledo> I have another question, we can see the accounts using any filter, where I can see just values from this year?
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14:20:09 <warlord> MarceloToledo, View -> Filter By -> [select dates]
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14:24:57 <MarceloToledo> warlord, I've tried this but, I do not know if it has that option in version 3.4 that I'm using ... it has no selection by date.
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14:26:05 <warlord> MarceloToledo, wait, are you asking about seeing it in the register or only in the chart of accounts?
14:26:06 <MarceloToledo> Here I can see just Type of Account and Other... but, nothing about dates, :-/
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14:26:50 <warlord> MarceloToledo, are you in a register? Or the account list?
14:27:04 <MarceloToledo> in Account list
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14:27:43 <MarceloToledo> this is possible?
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14:32:12 <warlord> If you click on the small arrow at the right side of the headers you can add additional columns. One column is "Total (Period)", which may do what you want if you have your Periods set up correctly.
14:32:30 <warlord> There is also a "Balance (Period)" column
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14:33:08 <MarceloToledo> let me see
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14:34:46 <MarceloToledo> Uauuuuuuu, It's amazing!!! Thank you...
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