2019-02-10 GnuCash IRC logs

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06:34:44 <kritzefitz> I regularly have transactions where money leaves an account earlier/later than it arrives at the target account. Is there a best practice on how to enter such transactions in Gnucash?
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08:05:31 <chris> gjanssens - do we want to stop a couple of crashers? e.g. if loading saved-reports saved in newer version, by an older version Gnucash.
08:21:37 <gjanssens> chris: what do you propose ?
08:22:10 <gjanssens> In itself it's something ucommon to happen
08:22:22 <gjanssens> Because if the format of saved-reports changes, the version number should go up
08:22:38 <chris> e.g. i augment date-options to allow 'start-book-accounting-period, then save a tab/report
08:22:54 <chris> then I switch to older version, try reload tab -> report crash
08:23:07 <chris> then I load 'report options' dialog -> segfault
08:23:26 <chris> i can fix both - default date to (current-time),
08:23:29 <gjanssens> Ok, that's not saved-reports in my mind, but a report saved in .gcm
08:23:42 <gjanssens> But I do see your point
08:23:55 <chris> and if report-options cannot find the saved-report-item (eg start-book-accounting-period) it defaults to the first one 'today'
08:24:27 <chris> I'll tack at the end of maint-bugfixes
08:24:35 <gjanssens> Ok
08:25:18 <chris> there should be a gnc-error-dialog warning though,i'll see if i can use it
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08:34:51 <warlord> chris, there are lots of wrapped functions. take a look at the various .i files ;)
08:35:26 <warlord> chris, re Feb 29, that sounds reasonable to me
08:36:19 <warlord> kritzefitz, most people ignore the time difference. If the time difference REALLY REALLY matters to you then you need to use a suspense account to hold the funds while they transfer. Note that if you go this route, you will lose the connection between source and destination.
08:38:31 <kritzefitz> warlord, thanks. I guess the difference isn't actually that important to me. It was just slightly bugging me that transactions aren't “right”.
08:40:46 <warlord> Think about it this way -- if you write a check to someone, it can take days or weeks before they cash it! You should record the check immediately, but it will take a while to clear.
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08:41:07 <warlord> This is what the 'cleared' flag is for -- so you can mark when the transaction is actually processed by the account.
08:46:54 <kritzefitz> warlord, Ah, so that's what that is for.
08:48:03 * warlord nods
08:48:13 <warlord> yes, to mark when a transaction has cleared the account.
08:48:33 <warlord> And then the reconcile (y) flag means you've done your periodic (monthly) reconciliation against your bank statements
08:50:27 <kritzefitz> Yes, that's what I've already been doing.
08:51:25 <warlord> ok.
08:53:24 <kritzefitz> Thanks for clarifying!
08:54:01 * chris would be keen for some progress in scheme commits... getting hard to switch all these branches all the time
09:06:26 <gjanssens> chris: I lost track of what's ready for merge :(
09:08:46 <chris> well, maint-scheme-progress aims to be refactoring/cleanup only, so, all *should* be safe...
09:09:09 <chris> maint-bugfixes aims to fix problems/add functionality perhaps warrant more scrutiny
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09:35:30 <gjanssens> chris: ok, I'll try to work on those in the coming days
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09:55:19 <chris> thx, please cherry pick from the earlier commits; I think is safest!
10:00:16 <chris> hmm re: last commit, I wonder if it wouldn't be safer to retain the report crashers.... because my fix will prevent crash but produce an unexpected report. i tried gnc-error-dialog but I think there's a cmake issue that doesn't allow loading gnome modules in options.scm and date-utilities.scm. so i've removed the error dialog in the commits.
10:10:11 <gjanssens> chris: indeed you can't use gui code in the engine so you won't be able to display a dialog box directly
10:10:36 <gjanssens> Which is yet another fundamental design issue to clean up at some point
10:11:11 <chris> ok... i was able to make it work while hotfixing, but the rebuild failed.
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13:00:23 <lcanaska> Hello, new one here for chatting.
13:01:05 <lcanaska> Having grief with program backup file."That database may be on a read-only file system,"
13:03:53 <lcanaska> more accurately the message is " That database may be on a read-only file system, or you may not have write permission for the directory."
13:06:07 <lcanaska> *recently installed Bitdefender. message popped about file gnucash being read only. Message disappeared without fully understanding the implications.
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16:13:38 <lcanaska> Discovered main folder and sub folder GNUcash HAD read only atribute. HOW that happened, went unnoticed. Lets see if this solves issue.
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