2019-01-22 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:17:21 <gjanssens> .
04:17:21 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 9 hours and 35 minutes ago: <chris> I've compared cash-flow.scm and cashflow-barchart.scm -- large function cashflow-barchart-calc-money-in-out is identical to cash-flow-calc-money-in-out so they can be either upgraded to report-utilities.scm / or I get cashflow-barchart.scm to 'load' cash-flow.scm. second option may be better - function already exported by p.broadbery for test-cash-flow
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04:18:19 <chris> how odd. now test-gnc-date is passing for me in my early evening.
04:18:42 <gjanssens> chris: that suggests a time dependent test
04:19:02 <gjanssens> We had those in the past as well and I thought all of them were fixed
04:19:13 <gjanssens> Looks like we missed one or introduced a new one
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04:19:53 <gjanssens> As for the calc-money-in-out, would any report other than cash flow benefit from those ?
04:19:56 <chris> hmm fails again
04:20:10 <gjanssens> heh, even weirder...
04:20:38 <chris> no; j.marino copied that function wholly from cash-flow.scm to create cashflow-barchart.scm; my recent commit creates the link
04:21:10 <chris> i checked via copy-and-paste and ediff in emacs; they're pretty much identical
04:21:20 <gjanssens> ok
04:21:55 <gjanssens> So let's consider the relationship between those two reports
04:22:05 <chris> jralls my test-gnc-date output https://pastebin.com/8t7M9jtV
04:22:18 <gjanssens> They currently are independent I suppose
04:22:37 <gjanssens> And one shows a chart where the other a table of numbers
04:22:56 <gjanssens> IIRC each chart report can also have a data table
04:23:08 <chris> wanna combine them? :-)
04:23:23 <gjanssens> Yeah, that's what I'm considering.
04:23:36 <gjanssens> Do we require two separate reports ?
04:23:41 <chris> small headache but I think it's doable
04:24:10 <gjanssens> Small headache ? Then let's defer it until you're a bit further in your cleanups...
04:24:10 <chris> right now my commits make cashflow-barchart a dependent on cash-flow
04:24:22 <chris> oh yeah lots of cleanups pending
04:24:28 <gjanssens> Ok, that's probably a good first start.
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04:24:52 <gjanssens> It gives a first clue these reports are closely related and may need some combined refactoring at some point
04:25:13 <chris> I am aware #450 gets very busy, so, I'm slowly appending at the end and feel free to cherrypick anything from the early commits that seem safe. I'll keep rebasing on maint.
04:25:18 <gjanssens> Got to leave now. Back in a few hours
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04:25:41 <chris> ditto
04:25:44 <gjanssens> And ack on #450
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05:36:20 <chris> jralls current maint full test output: https://pastebin.com/kdsHkf99
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08:30:11 <warlord> .
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08:46:00 <gjanssens> Good morning warlord
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09:57:27 <warlord> hiya gjanssens
10:02:00 <gjanssens> warlord: I'm considering installing oVirt on my new server over here.
10:02:11 <gjanssens> Any pitfalls you can share with me or useful tips ?
10:02:28 <warlord> Run CentOS, not Fedora.
10:02:40 <gjanssens> Ok, that was my plan already
10:02:47 <warlord> Be ready to wipe it a few times as you figure it all out.
10:02:52 <warlord> You need working DNS.
10:02:57 <warlord> And stable IPs.
10:03:07 <gjanssens> Ok, that's available here
10:03:21 <gjanssens> DNS is managed by my pfSense firewall system
10:03:30 <gjanssens> (Internal DNS that is)
10:04:12 <gjanssens> From reading their docs it seems their recommended setup requires at least 3 servers
10:04:22 <gjanssens> One engine node and two hosts
10:04:46 <gjanssens> But it can also be reduced by running the engine node as a VM on one of the hosts
10:05:21 <gjanssens> I suppose you went for the latter for the GnuCash server and have not failover server at all
10:05:24 <warlord> I'm running with only 1
10:05:49 <gjanssens> Yeah
10:05:51 <warlord> Yes, you should definitely used Hosted Engine...
10:06:00 <warlord> You can do it with 1.. or with 3 (or more). Don't do it with 2.
10:06:15 <gjanssens> ?
10:06:27 <warlord> The one thing I would change vs what I did is that I'd probably use Gluster instead of loop-back NFS for my data shares.
10:06:52 <warlord> If you have 2 hosts it can't figure out host-unavailable v. net split
10:07:02 <gjanssens> Oh, that
10:07:07 <warlord> With 3 hosts you can have a quorum
10:07:50 <gjanssens> Well considering the current state I'll have to start with one host
10:07:53 <gjanssens> I'll work from there
10:08:22 <gjanssens> I don't really understand (yet) what you mean with loop-back NFS
10:08:41 <gjanssens> Are your data shares loopback mounted file systems ?
10:08:53 <gjanssens> (that is a filesystem in a file) ?
10:09:19 <gjanssens> On the other hand I have heard of gluster, but don't know much about it
10:09:39 <gjanssens> I read in oVirt's docs it has support for gluster
10:11:10 <warlord> loopback NFS: I am running both an NFS server and NFS client on the same host.
10:11:47 <gjanssens> Ah, ok
10:12:50 <gjanssens> Well, let's dive in and see what happens :)
10:12:56 <gjanssens> Thanks for the quick tips
10:20:46 <warlord> My pleasure.
10:21:19 <warlord> Beyond that, I feel like I pretty much just used the default settings.
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10:39:03 <warlord> If you like I can go find my configuration diary?
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10:42:23 <gjanssens> warlord: that may be helpful indeed
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11:13:10 <warlord> gjanssens, I'll try to get you a summary later today
11:13:15 * warlord happens to like ovirt
11:13:39 <warlord> Note that I originally installed 4.0 and am currently running 4.1; I plan to upgrade to 4.2 relatively soon (hopefully).
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11:22:26 <gjanssens> warlord: looking forward to it
11:22:43 <gjanssens> How was the upgrade experience?
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11:35:52 <jralls> @tell chris I've replicated the date-format problem on Debian stretch so I can debug it directly. Weird that it works some places but not others.
11:35:52 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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22:23:33 <lucid_gem> Hi, I'm new to GnuCash & trying to figure out how to set up my chart of accounts. I've spent some time looking around online and haven't gotten a clear answer to this question. Basically, I'm a small business owner (sole proprietorship) and trying to figure out if I should set up two separate files for my personal and business accounts, or if I should just set up one. Mainly I'm concerned with separating things for clarity and priv
22:23:33 <lucid_gem> acy reasons, in case of a future sale of the business. Can anyone comment about the relative strengths and weaknesses of combining vs. separating personal and business files in GnuCash? thx!
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