2019-01-16 GnuCash IRC logs

00:12:53 <Robert847> This FI uses 15 space characters[20] as the line end and the expected < [3C] as the line start symbol
00:16:06 <Robert847> or </ [3C 2F] to mark the start of the field closing symbol
00:32:30 <Robert847> An example of a memo that was not imported contains 89 characters including the 15 trailing spaces.
00:36:07 <Robert847> A memo that was imported contains 42 bytes including the 15 trailing spaces
00:51:14 <Robert847> In the OFX 2.2 specification I could not find an end-of-line specification, maximum length or other XML details beyond a declaration that it is supposed to follow XML grammer
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02:26:01 <gjanssens> .
02:49:17 <gjanssens> flatpak master build worked well yesterday :)
02:52:03 <gjanssens> I also clicked on the flatpakrefs for maint and master and on Fedora (KDE desktop) this flawlessly asks to install, does the install and works
02:52:09 * gjanssens is a happy camper
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05:56:12 <chris> is this flatpak ready for general consumption yet? :D
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06:45:57 <gjanssens> chris: want to try it out ?
06:46:00 <gjanssens> It should work
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06:52:48 <chris> sure
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08:31:38 <warlord> .
08:31:55 <warlord> gjanssens, YAY!
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08:32:17 <gjanssens> warlord: indeed :D
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08:33:12 <gjanssens> This should help us a lot when asking for feedback from linux users
08:33:50 <gjanssens> And once I get the release builds sorted it should equally help lots of linux users still stuck on old versions
08:33:59 <warlord> Robert847, it's SGML, so white space and line-endings should not matter
08:34:21 <warlord> chris, I'd prefer not -- only because I am sitting behind a straw.
08:34:54 <warlord> gjanssens, just remember I'm sitting behind a straw -- my upload speed right now is only 10mbps
08:35:50 <gjanssens> Oh right. So I'll refrain from spreading the word...
08:36:00 <warlord> thank you
08:36:20 <warlord> ... unless there is a way we can store it somewhere like SF? Or flathub?
08:36:28 <gjanssens> An estimated planning for when you'll be back on large bandwidth ?
08:37:03 <gjanssens> Flathub will only accept releases, not nightlies
08:37:36 <gjanssens> And I don't think sf allows anything else than plain file downloads
08:38:07 <gjanssens> As flatpak is repo based, I don't think that would work
08:39:00 <warlord> I'll have a better estimate once I have my permit and financing in hand. We submitted for permit on Dec 12 and on Dec 21 received 5 pages of comments back from the city. So we're working on those comments now.
08:40:10 <gjanssens> Ok
08:40:54 <warlord> Once we start, contractor says 6 months. There is a good chance that I can move over to the new network before the construction is complete.
08:42:24 <warlord> The biggest holdup is going to be getting the power back connected. Once that is done then I can look to move my master network over.
08:44:18 <gjanssens> Ok
08:44:33 <gjanssens> I wish you good luck!
08:44:40 <warlord> Thanks. It's a major project..
08:44:53 <warlord> But will be worth it in the end.
08:44:56 <warlord> You'll have to come visit :)
08:45:06 <gjanssens> I'd love to :)
08:45:06 <warlord> You and C, of course :)
08:45:24 <chris> get the whole team
08:45:51 <gjanssens> Sure, though 'C' in this case referred to my wife :)
08:46:33 <gjanssens> warlord: fyi we're about to embark on a construction project ourselves
08:46:39 <chris> lol
08:47:12 <gjanssens> We are in the process of buying an old house, mostly for its location, not the house itself
08:47:43 <gjanssens> If all goes well we want to have a project submitted to our town council by the end of the year
08:47:51 <gjanssens> So busy times ahead here as well...
08:48:58 <warlord> gjanssens, cool!
08:49:12 <warlord> Good luck!!
08:49:16 <gjanssens> Tx
08:49:43 * chris doesn't have construction project
08:50:42 <chris> wish all best of luck
08:50:55 * chris has project to harmonise .scm files
08:51:08 <gjanssens> Yay for chris as well !
08:51:12 <gjanssens> And good luck!
08:53:11 <warlord> good luck with that!
08:53:46 <warlord> me, I also have several systems I need to update... The hardest is my mail server, which is still sitting at F20 -- but upgrading maia is hard because it's a third-party tool that never got integrated into Fedora
09:00:09 <Robert847> I saw in the specification that white space is supposed to be ignored, but that does not expain why around 80 or 90% of my memos are not imported
09:06:47 <warlord> Robert847, that's a very good question -- and I dont have an answer for you.
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09:38:37 <Robert847> One of the memos that was not imported contained 89 ASCII characters, one that was contained 42 ASCII characters. Does the OFX importer have a maximum string length issue somewhere in all the code involved?
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09:39:46 <Robert847> I would not expect any problem unless the string approached 240 characters approx.
09:40:12 <Robert847> But I did not write this code
09:43:12 <warlord> Neither did I.
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10:04:28 <fell> Robert847: How about updating to ubuntu 18.4? ISTR all relevant libs were updated after 16.4.
10:17:51 * chris still wishes to nuke eguile reports
10:19:39 <warlord> chris, and what templating structure would you prefer in its place?
10:20:00 <chris> the existing html-document based one
10:20:21 <warlord> Sorry, which "existing html-document based one"?
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10:20:51 <chris> i.e. non-eguile reports
10:21:44 <warlord> chris, and in what way are those templatable?
10:22:17 <chris> hmm no they're not...
10:22:37 <warlord> The (supposed) benefit of the eguile reports is that you could use a "standard" HTML editor to generate your template, and then use the eguile to make it a live report.
10:22:40 <warlord> Exactly.
10:23:11 <warlord> At least, that was the concept and reasoning behind eguile.
10:23:34 <warlord> We could have generated our own templating language -- or we could try to leverage someone else's..
10:24:56 <chris> there's http://mustache.github.io/
10:25:18 <fell> One problem with eguile: The original author disappeared. But recently somebody popped in an did some maintenance.
10:25:21 <gour> whatever can make it easier to create/customize reports would be nice...
10:26:22 <warlord> I am sure that mustache did not exist at the time e-guile was implemented. Yes, it's sad that the maintainer disappeared. Then again, so did the author of the budgeting tools.
10:26:49 <gour> btw, what do you think that in the future it could be easier to add support to GC for having both quotes (orders) and invoices with each one having separate counters?
10:27:17 <chris> ...... and I have a zero-sum budgeting system all ready to go but there was so much backlash last year that I wouldn't push it in
10:27:53 <gour> chris: what is "zero-sum budgeting system" ?
10:28:00 <chris> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Zero-Sum_Budgeting
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10:32:30 <chris> ps. i don't know who authored the existing budgeting tools
10:32:35 <gour> chris: that's great
10:32:41 <warlord> chris, Chris Shoemaker
10:33:26 <chris> ok
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10:41:05 <chris> there's also https://dthompson.us/rendering-html-with-sxml-and-gnu-guile.html but probably out of reach of the beginning report-writer
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11:42:16 * fell is wondering: Should we set stricter rules for PRs like "Each bug should get a separate commit."?
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13:06:38 <warlord> fell, don't we already have a rule that each bug should get its own commit? (unless it's a really really simple change that fixes multiple bugs -- but in that case the two bugs are probably one and should be made dependent)..
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21:48:45 <derek> hi all
21:52:01 <derek> I was wondering if there is something I can do about the Description column in an account, when I maximize the gnuCash window the description column gets really large but I'm unable to shrink it in order to increase the account column
21:52:37 <derek> it makes it so I cannot read the full account text and I have lots of empty space in the description column
21:55:38 <derek> I try to drag the column header resize but it doesn't allow me to enlarge past a point which is frustrating
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22:20:25 <fell> derek, you can expand i.e. the account header (a scrollbar will appear at the bottom of the window) and then shrink the description column.
22:23:19 <derek> https://imagebin.ca/v/4TmInFD6HPbr
22:23:37 <derek> it's probably simple, but it's not working
22:24:21 <derek> the account column wont resize left
22:25:15 <derek> it's like everything right of description is justified right and wont resize past a specific point
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22:32:02 <derek> figured it out, really strange behaviour, I have to click on the invisible line above the R column and expand right shrinking everything to the right of account column then drag the left side of account column into description column
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