2018-12-04 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:36:30 <gjanssens> .
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03:38:38 <chris> (drumroll) https://www.sbr.gov.au/about-sbr/publications-and-resources/learning-modules/xbrl-fundamentals
03:39:03 <chris> income-gst-statement.scm could be taught to embed gst/vat data in the reports
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07:27:18 <chris> jralls you were asking about mechanisms for formal export of financial reports... the answer is XBRL instead of DocBook, however, I'm not sure there are good XBRL viewers suitable for end-users :)
07:29:41 <jralls> chris: I don't remember using Docbook and financial reports in the same sentence. ISTR it was finding something more useful than HTML, which is fine for display but not much use for anything else.
07:29:57 <chris> ok
07:31:40 <chris> I think iXBRL is a subtype of XBRL whereby HTML reports contain embedded machine readable data
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07:33:59 <jralls> XBRL is only useful if there are a lot of apps out there that can read it. CSV might be a more reasonable export for report tables.
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07:41:20 <chris> (example of real iXBRL files - from a random company) https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08022893/filing-history
07:42:11 <chris> ok CSV does sound better
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07:45:40 <chris> (1) either individual reports can generate CSV export via export-thunk mechanism, or (2) all reports could generate CSV via the report renderer, converting html-table objects to CSV... but this is a complete mess in itself!
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07:58:16 <jralls> I'd go with the export-thunk if you're in a mood to implement something.
08:02:54 <chris> let's wait for dust to settle on the periodic reports changes first, and html-chart is next... personally i'm quite happy printing the transaction report, dual columns (debit/credit), beautifully presented to accountant annually!
08:11:26 <jralls> OK. I'm thinking of users like Maf King who like to export reports to spreadsheets for further processing.
08:12:33 * chris meanwhile playing on a guile REPL live connection to the internal guile interpreter, testing qof-session shenanigans
08:12:59 <jralls> Umm, OK. ;-)
08:13:44 * chris loaded repl.scm which calls (call-with-new-thread run-server), then run report, then emacs connect-to-guile to hook up to its brain directly ;-)
08:16:31 <jralls> Does that give you the ability to debug Scheme code?
08:17:10 <jralls> As in step through it line-by-line, set breakpoints, inspect variables...
08:17:37 <chris> ah don't think so... although, gdb is written in guile, so, ...
08:18:25 <chris> maybe i'll bridge that chasm one day
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08:20:26 <chris> someone on #guile told me emacs doesn't have capability to step through live guile code, so, chances are tiny
08:20:46 <jralls> Oh well.
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08:23:01 <chris> I've just tried (load "transaction.scm") which does compile-and-load then coredumps, so, there it is
08:23:02 <chris> [xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue
08:23:03 <chris> [xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called
08:23:03 <chris> [xcb] Aborting, sorry about that.
08:23:03 <chris> gnucash: ../../src/xcb_io.c:263: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed.
08:25:07 <jralls> Hmm. I'm not comfortable with running engine in a multi-threaded environment. There are a lot of statics with no reentrancy protection.
08:25:55 <chris> +1
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18:47:49 <WB> Hello. I am new to gnucash. I've been trying to get the counters + printf command %li working witthout luck. At the Employee number format field I have typed: E-%li but it does not uses the "E-" when creating new employees. I installed on a windows 10 machine
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20:31:46 <jralls> Time to fly.
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22:24:12 <CDB-Man_> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v3/C/gnucash-guide/basics-migrate-settings.html is this still accurate? when i look in Users/Username/.gnucash/books the last update was in April, but when I check AppData/Roaming/GnuCash/books I see it was updated yesterday -- did this change with GNUcash 3? April is around when I installed Gnucash 3
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