2018-08-23 GnuCash IRC logs
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10:51:14 <gjanssens> How can I enable a gtk input method on linux to experiment with in gnucash ?
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10:54:11 <gjanssens> I have found variable GTK_IM_MODULE, but I don't know what modules I have on my system...
10:57:24 <gjanssens> Hmm, I have set this variable to either ibus or scim, but I don't see any difference...
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11:04:33 <luc14n0> They might live in libdir/gtk-3.0/*/immodules/.
11:07:40 <gjanssens> Ah, got it.
11:08:00 <gjanssens> I had to set GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus *and* start ibus-daemon
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11:20:25 <tachi> hi, I have a problem with credit notes when I post it to the chart of accounts. It shows an imbalance which is the sum of twice the costs. Is this a bug?
11:21:09 <tachi> and is there a solution and/or workaround for it?
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11:33:34 <gjanssens> tachi: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796766
11:33:42 <gjanssens> It will be fixed in gnucash 3.3
11:34:32 <gjanssens> If you're on Windows you can also download and install a recent nightly build from here https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint/
11:34:37 <gjanssens> To get the fix earlier.
11:34:45 <gjanssens> I don't know a workaround unfortunately.
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11:46:46 <tachi> Thanks. I'm not on Windows, I use Fedora, but I can also use Windows.
11:49:06 <tachi> Do you know by any chance when version 3.3 will be released?
11:53:02 <gjanssens> tachi: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Release_Schedule
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12:29:33 <tachi> One more question though. The latest nightly build is from 23 July. According to the bug report you have fixed it in August. Is there another way to get the latest nightly build
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12:34:06 <fell> warlord wiki seems to have a hickup.
12:34:51 <fell> ping code... is OK.
12:35:18 <jralls> tachi: Damn, I'd been meaning to check on that. I'll get it building again today.
12:35:44 <jralls> fell: The wiki is working OK for me.
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12:45:06 <gjanssens> jralls: I've started working on the register changes for keyboard/IM issues
12:45:33 <jralls> gjanssens: I guessed that from your earlier comment about GTK_IM_MODULES. ;-)
12:45:43 <gjanssens> LOL
12:47:07 <gjanssens> I have an initial experiment running, though it needs cleaning up.
12:47:36 <gjanssens> However I don't have much experience in really using IM so I don't know if I cover it all correctly
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12:47:57 <gjanssens> For example, I'm using ibus as input method.
12:48:14 <gjanssens> And with Chinese.
12:48:39 <gjanssens> It took me a while to realize the shift key would toggle IM support in this case
12:48:45 <jralls> Yeah, I have the same problem. I can sort-of test by turning on Pinyin and typing syllables at it and get characters, but I have no way to understand if it's right.
12:49:10 <jralls> And I've never even tried in Linux, only MacOS and Windows.
12:49:31 <gjanssens> If IM support is enabled, *all* keypresses are first parsed by ibus, so no shortcut keys work in the date field
12:49:50 <gjanssens> I have to disable it by pressing the shift key once and then it works
12:49:59 <gjanssens> Is that how it has always been ?
12:51:09 <gjanssens> I still have gnucash 2.6 on my system as well, but I can't get ibus to work on that version at all so I can't even compare
12:51:31 <jralls> Probably. Since the date logic doesn't understand numeral codepoints other than the ASCII ones we should probably explicitly disable IM in the date editors.
12:51:46 <gjanssens> Oh, good point
12:52:25 <gjanssens> In my experiment quickfill equally doesn't work when IM is active.
12:52:34 <jralls> Same for the debit/credit editors (I've spaced what we actually call that...).
12:53:05 <gjanssens> Again, IM steals key events when active so we never see key input events.
12:53:09 <jralls> Yes, that's the MacOS bug that got me going about IM in the first place.
12:53:37 <gjanssens> It's not MacOS only apparently.
12:54:02 <gjanssens> (Unless I (re)created it in my experiments of course)
12:54:37 <jralls> Oh, no, that's different from MacOS: In MacOS the preedit seems to break the selection of the remainder of the string so the second keypress is added instead of replacing the auto-filled text.
12:55:11 <gjanssens> Well, much more to look at for sure in my branch.
12:55:25 <gjanssens> I'll get back to it later as I'm out of time for tonight.
12:56:51 <jralls> You can run from the build directory so you have a build of your branch in one builddir and a build of maint in another and switch back-and-forth to compare behavior.
12:58:31 <jralls> Don't bother comparing 2.6.x, there have been enough changes in IM from Gtk2->Gtk3 that it's not really relevant. I have the impression that there weren't so many glaring problems with IM in 2.6.
12:58:58 <gjanssens> Good idea
12:59:04 <gjanssens> Got to run now...
12:59:10 <jralls> 'night.
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13:23:59 <fell> If others have no problems, then I got blocked by code, while I tried to setup my ssh key on this machine.
13:25:20 <fell> In the god old IPv4 times a new dialin was sufficient to get another IP. But IPv6 ...
13:42:07 <jralls> fell: It's over an hour so you should be OK again.
13:51:48 <fell> jralls: thanks, yes, I have access again. Should we note the block time in https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git#Core_Developers?
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13:56:05 <jralls> fell: You could, I suppose, but since there are only three of us I'm not sure it's worth it.
13:57:01 <jralls> Besides, when you lock yourself out you can't see the page to find the timeout. ;-)
13:57:38 <fell> I hope I will need the page in 10 years again and then, I am shure, I have it forgotten again. ;-)
13:58:56 <fell> You might have read the section before your first connect trial.
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14:05:27 <jralls> I manage to lock myself out a couple of times a year so it stays pretty fresh in my memory. :(
14:11:53 <warlord> fail2ban unfortunately doesn't know the difference between one of us and one of them.
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16:46:01 <CharlesIC> hi
16:46:01 <gncbot> CharlesIC: Sent 4 weeks, 3 days, 6 hours, and 24 minutes ago: <fell> depending on your OS there have been several input issues reported to bugs.gnucash.org for 3.x.
16:46:11 <CharlesIC> is there an easy way to do a P&L statement in gnucas?
16:52:05 <CharlesIC> it says i have to create a budget?
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16:53:31 <warlord> CharlesIC: Eh? Just run the P&L Report
16:53:44 <CharlesIC> i tried that
16:53:47 <CharlesIC> and it says i have to create a budget
16:53:52 <CharlesIC> so i just did that but everything is 0?
16:54:08 <warlord> I think you're running the wrong report. \
16:54:15 <warlord> Reports -> Income & Expense -> Profit & Loss
16:54:17 <warlord> No budget required
16:54:18 <CharlesIC> oh
16:56:03 <CharlesIC> thanks!
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17:00:54 <jralls> tachi: I got the build issue fixed and there's a new maint installer at https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/maint/gnucash-3.2-2018-08-23-git-3.2-132-g93f3a8ea8+.setup.exe.
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21:22:26 <tachi> jrals: thanks and good night!
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