2018-07-09 GnuCash IRC logs
00:03:20 <arahael> Nice. :) I'm from the east coast. (Sydney, atm)
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01:00:29 <chris> jralls I've added combinatorial testing for demonstration, completes in 14s - output https://pastebin.com/m6bsdgP9 . no new bugs have been found so far; but I wouldn't call it ready.... unsurprisingly not all reports are successfully run... but Income-statement and networth-linechart are surprising fails.
01:19:58 <chris> the previous https://pastebin.com/Z469kYzW fail was due to Budget-Flow having only 1 testable option (price-source) therefore jenny barfed; I've fixed
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02:57:14 <gjanssens> .
02:57:14 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 4 hours and 49 minutes ago: <fell> Yeah, I was too busy over the weekend. 1. #7, 2. #5 because they are easier to rcognize in the small resolution.
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03:45:11 <gjanssens> Tx fell_laptop
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05:39:46 <gjanssens> jralls: I have just suggested to a linux user to use gnome-tweak-tool to change Gtk3's appearance and behaviour
05:40:29 <gjanssens> Perhaps we should try to include that tool into our Windows (and perhaps OS X) packages to allow those users to do the same.
05:41:09 <gjanssens> It may be the closest alternative we have for the old gtk style tool we used to ship
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05:48:28 <gjanssens> For the wiki favicon, it looks like #7 was generally most preferred. So I have committed this one in the repo.
05:48:44 <gjanssens> warlord: can you transfer it to the wiki page ?
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07:17:36 <warlord> gjanssens: I can't today (busy with work) but maybe later.
07:17:36 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 13 hours and 53 minutes ago: <jralls> I've increased the BZ max attachment size to 5M from the default 1M to enable Wm to upload a video should he still care to. I hope it won't be a problem but we may need to monitor it.
07:17:37 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 13 hours and 50 minutes ago: <jralls> Eh, make that 4M, apparently there's a MySQL limit at that size.
07:18:35 <warlord> jralls: was there actually a problem uploading? That max size should only control what gets put into the DB vs what gets stored in a file.
07:20:03 <warlord> I think there are two settings.
07:31:23 <gjanssens> warlord: that's ok
07:32:07 <gjanssens> I'll be afk most of the next three weeks anyway
07:34:27 <warlord> @tell jralls There are two configuration parameters, maxattachmentsize and maxlocalattachment. The LATTER is the maximum size for attachments, period. The FORMER (which you increased) is just the maximum stored in the database. So I don't understand why you needed to increase it. The maximum size was already set to 20MB.
07:34:27 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
07:34:43 <warlord> @tell jralls I've reverted the change.
07:34:43 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
08:01:42 <warlord> BIAB...
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09:27:29 <getling> I'm seeing some odd behavior with Gnucash 3.2 on OSX Sierra after trying to install (and then back out) a GTK theme. Essentially the auto-complete in register entries now picks up the first option and then further typing becomes direct entry rather than continuing to auto-complete based on new input. Worked initially with 3.2, so I'm curious what I did.
09:29:02 <getling> Eg. I start typing 'B' and it picks up 'baba's pierogies.' Further input then becomes 'Boxed.comaba's pierogies' instead of resetting. Happens also on the Accounts field, not just the Description.
09:31:08 <getling> Moving and reinitializing the ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash folder had no effect.
09:31:33 <getling> Nor re-installing Gnucash.app
09:42:05 <omnireq> gjanssens: I'm running 3.2 built on Mint 19 (Ubuntu 18.04) and I'm having trouble because of my dark theme. I found reference to tweaking colors within Gnucash, but I think that functionality was removed? My Accounts list is fine, dark background light text,but in the register it has black text instead. Using the built in color scheme would be fine, but it still uses my theme in the cell I'm typing. Any help pointing me in a direction to figure
09:42:05 <omnireq> out a fix is much appreciated. Thanks, I hadn't thought of playing around in gnome-tweak-tool, forgot about it, maybe there's a fix for me in there.
09:48:49 <warlord> getling: jralls is really the guy to ask . I don't know where that data gets stored, but probably in a folder you didn't reset.
09:51:32 <getling> warlord: That was my thought as well.
09:51:49 <getling> jrails: Any thoughts on the above problem, where to look to nuke a bad setting?
09:52:04 <gjanssens> omnireq: this is https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796669
09:52:13 <getling> jralls: and this time spelling correctly
09:53:50 <gjanssens> The person who's most knowledgible (?) regarding color handling is Robert Fewel, but he's usually not on IRC. Your best option is to ask on gnucash-user and chances are he'll offer you a css snippet to insert in gtk-3.0.css
10:02:10 <warlord> getling: it's only 7am where jralls is, so don't expect a response for a couple hours.
10:03:29 <omnireq> Thanks for the help getling and gjanssens, I'll look into both
10:03:41 <getling> warlord: Thanks. Not super urgent, and seemed individual enough of a problem I didn't want to bother gnucash-user unless I have to :)
10:05:06 <getling> omnireq: That's all gjanssens, I didn't address any of my comments to your situation (even as it has some commonality with my own)
10:12:05 <gjanssens> getling: I haven't heard before that a theme change would affect auto-complete behaviour.
10:12:27 <gjanssens> There are several reports about auto-complete misbehaving though and we are aware of the problem.
10:12:57 <gjanssens> There are several bug reports related to this as well.
10:15:29 <gjanssens> As you removed ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash any gtk/gnucash config has been reset.
10:15:53 <gjanssens> Except for the parts that are stored in MacOS' defaults system.
10:16:34 <gjanssens> (Or from the gnucash/gtk3 perspective: saved in GSettings. On MacOS that uses the native defaults system as backend)
10:17:08 <gjanssens> If the theme installation affected any such parameter, those would persist, even after reinstalling gnucash.
10:17:52 <gjanssens> I'm not on MacOS myself so I can't provide much more help in that area...
10:18:09 <getling> gjanssens: The theme never appeared in Gnucash, so I doubt I even did it right
10:18:30 <getling> Although following the directions here: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GTK3
10:18:35 <gjanssens> All the more reason to believe it's not due to the change in themes.
10:18:52 <getling> True.
10:19:19 <getling> Any of the auto-complete bugs show up after a period of use? That's the part that still confounds me (if not theme related)
10:19:56 <gjanssens> I don't know. jralls has been following these issues more closely than I have.
10:20:27 <gjanssens> I do have a fairly good idea where the issues start, but won't have time until somewhere August to really work on it.
10:21:50 <getling> gjanssens: Thanks for the bug pointer, behavior maps to 796734, I'll try the workaround suggested there.
10:23:03 <gjanssens> getling: you're welcome
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10:26:46 <getling> gjanssens: confirmed. It's Bug# 796734 and workaround works. Thanks again.
10:30:51 * warlord wonders if there is a gncbot plugin to interface with bugzilla, and if so, if we should turn it on. (e.g., to respond with bug summary when it sees a "bug XXXXXX" in a message)
10:33:09 <gjanssens> warlord: I would love such an integration
10:33:52 <warlord> gjanssens: found a link where the bot can both report on new bugs as well as respond with bug info when it's referenced. I'll look at that.
10:34:36 <getling> warlord: I was trying to prod the gncbot to pipe up :)
10:34:57 <warlord> getling: it wont pipe up about BZ stuff (yet)
10:34:59 <getling> In lieu of that... here's the bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796734
10:36:43 <warlord> gjanssens: https://github.com/aleb/supybot-bugzilla
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12:03:07 <jralls> gjanssens: I'll have a look at gnome-tweak-tool. As long as it works by adjusting a gtk.css somewhere it should be portable. If it uses dbus directly then it will be a no-go.
12:03:07 <gncbot> jralls: Sent 4 hours and 28 minutes ago: <warlord> There are two configuration parameters, maxattachmentsize and maxlocalattachment. The LATTER is the maximum size for attachments, period. The FORMER (which you increased) is just the maximum stored in the database. So I don't understand why you needed to increase it. The maximum size was already set to 20MB.
12:03:08 <gncbot> jralls: Sent 4 hours and 28 minutes ago: <warlord> I've reverted the change.
12:03:22 <jralls> warlord: I misunderstood the two settings.
12:08:03 <gjanssens> jralls: re gnome-tweak-tool, I hadn't considered it may be using a dbus backend...
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12:08:16 <gjanssens> That would indeed prevent us from packing it
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12:10:14 <jralls> gjanssens: It looks like it uses gsettings. But it's pure python, so packaging it for Windows will require that we ship python too.
12:11:00 <jralls> gjanssens: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-tweaks
12:14:35 <jralls> README says it needs the gnome-setting-daemon at runtime... and that appears to require dbus. So Linux-only. :-(
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12:25:19 <gjanssens> Damn, so a no-go indeed :(
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16:03:06 <warlord> jralls_a_: question --- when I look at fixing the comments, there is at least one bug that you finger-swapped closing as a duplicate, so there are remnants pointing to a Gnumeric bug. Is it okay to change that out to a URL? "Closed as duplicate of <url>"?
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17:17:23 <jralls> warlord: You could fix the fat-finger instead. ;-) But yes, the general solution would be to replace it with a URL. A more legitimate instance might be closing something as a dupe of a Gtk or Glib bug.
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17:24:57 <warlord> jralls: there are 12 instances of a URL to bugzilla.gnome.org that's not a GnuCash bug, and there are 314 instances of "Bug # XXX" that are pointers to non-gnucash bugs.
17:26:02 <warlord> Many of these non-gnucash bugs are "closed". I don't know what the gnome team plans to do about closed bugs -- are they going to migrate them or not? If not, do they plan to keep bugzilla alive (statically) for reference?
17:28:33 <jralls> warlord: It depends. I monitor gtk-devel and I know that they're done migrating those projects. They only migrated bugs with recent activity and those that someone spoke up for migrating.
17:29:29 <jralls> I also have the the gtk-osx projects, for which I have a single BZ project, gtk-mac-integration. They've moved the repositories but not the bugs.
17:30:03 <warlord> In the sample size of 3 bugs I looked at, none of them had a pointer off that I could see.
17:34:48 <warlord> jralls: I gotta run. My immediate plan is to convert all GnuCash bugs to Bug #XXXXXX -- and convert all non-gnucash bugs to https URLs back to bz.gnome.org. Then, later, we can fix those URLs, too.
17:36:16 <jralls> How fancy do you want to get with scripting? You could retrieve the product for each of the 314 and flag any that aren't Gtk or GLib for human review on the assumption that those that are Gtk or Glib are legitimate upstream pointers. There might be one or two other projects that would qualify, Pango and Atk come to mind. Cairo is freedesktop so those would have to be URLs.
17:36:44 <jralls> OK, sounds reasonable to me.
17:38:24 <warlord> I figure we can go back later and re-adjust all gnome URLs accordingly.
17:38:37 <warlord> later
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18:57:55 <chris> weird - thunderbird cannot connect with SSL to irc.gnome.org anymore
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22:50:26 <warlord> .
23:15:22 <arahael> chris: Bad timing, perhaps.
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