2018-06-08 GnuCash IRC logs
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04:11:53 <chris> I think I cannot test eguile reports using same calls... looks like the entry point for eguile reports is completely different. "In procedure struct_vtable: Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting struct): "Template file \"taxinvoice.eguile.scm\" can not be read"
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06:24:17 <gjanssens> .
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13:43:47 <warlord> .
13:44:29 <warlord> jralls: I am (and was) home, but pretty much turned on my laptop and put it down.
13:44:56 <jralls> warlord: Not surprised... ;-)
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13:46:43 <warlord> :)
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14:22:24 <jralls> warlord: Did you manage to find any time to work on BZ attachments?
14:22:43 <warlord> No. Sorry.
14:24:45 <jralls> No apology needed, I'm not really surprised about that either.
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14:33:31 <grammata> Hi, I have a few invoices regarding purchases for my company. All these purchases I made without paying VAT. However, my accountant recommends I still add the VAT in Assets (to my advantage). How would you recommend I go about this task using a split transaction? I'm still a bit confused about split transactions, to be honest. Thanks in advance.
14:37:22 <jralls> grammata: Then study the Tutorial and Concepts Guide until you're not confused. We can't give you meaningful guidance until you understand the basics.
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15:11:48 <grammata> Actually I read a whole book about Gnucash but split transactions are difficult to apply to the aforementioned example.
15:12:49 <grammata> Because you have a purchase (-) combined with an asset (+).
15:15:07 <grammata> Anyway, I'll figure it out by myself.
15:15:15 <frakturfreak> Did you purchase assets?
15:15:35 <grammata> Yes, a laptop without VAT.
15:17:09 <warlord> grammata: split transactions always deal with multiple debits and credits, so the fact that you have a purchase and asset doesn't matter. Perhaps you can better explain the actual transaction -- feel free to make up numbers but actually *explain* the transaction. Then we can help you model it
15:17:10 <grammata> The VAT needs to be in a separate Assets account while still showing in my expenses.
15:17:22 <frakturfreak> Then your accountant is right, don’t worry about splitting the transaction up between asset and vat and just record it as whole in the asset category.
15:17:44 <warlord> grammata: you cannot have it be both an asset and expense unless you double-account for it in a different way.
15:18:45 <frakturfreak> The only way the VAT might be an asset for you, if you have outgoing sales that lead to splitting of the original input vat.
15:19:03 <frakturfreak> * expense
15:20:05 <frakturfreak> Or do you normally deduct input vat and we’re just talking about reverse charge stuff?
15:22:12 <warlord> frakturfreak: I think a VAT Asset would be when you pay VAT (that you should not have) -- and therefore you will "get it back"
15:23:52 <grammata> Right now I have two accounts for this purchase: VAT on Purchases (in Assets) and Computer Hardware (Expenses).
15:24:59 <frakturfreak> Why do you have to split it, if you can’t deduct the input vat?
15:26:04 <grammata> At first I just entered the transaction as a whole without the VAT, with only the amount I paid for in a separate Expenses account.
15:26:37 <frakturfreak> either make an expense account for non-deductable vat or just chuck in all into the computer expense account.
15:27:01 <grammata> But my accountant discouraged me to do so.
15:27:40 <grammata> Yeah, thought so too but he said several times it needs to be an asset (+).
15:29:19 <frakturfreak> Unless it’s some intra community stuff, were you bought the parts inside another eu country and the seller didn’t provide you with a right reverse charge invoice but one with his own vat rate and you want to fill out the forms to get it back. But even then, no it would just be easier to get a corrected invoice.
15:31:17 <grammata> It's indeed an intra-community purchase.
15:32:35 <frakturfreak> Well then get the other party to write a correct invoice (if you both happen to be businesses with valid vat ids).
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18:51:05 <jralls> warlord: You got on here faster than your email got to me. ;-)
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22:00:44 <chris> css makes invoice rather easy
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