2018-05-07 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:10:18 <gjanssens> .
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08:05:19 <warlord> .
08:11:28 <chris> apologies for spam on github/travis; my cmake;ninja;ninja check shows no errors yet travis is complaining
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09:16:32 <gjanssens> .
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09:44:49 <Mechtilde> .
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10:14:10 <warlord> Mechtilde: Are you expecting any gncbot @tell messages? ;)
10:14:44 <Mechtilde> maybe
10:14:49 <warlord> :)
10:15:39 <Mechtilde> I pinged gjanssens and fell
10:16:36 <fell> Mechtilde: About what?
10:17:01 <Mechtilde> gjanssens, fell FrOSCon in Sankt Augustin/Bonn is at 25.8 and 26.8.2018
10:17:07 <Mechtilde> CfP is running
10:17:11 <Mechtilde> is there interest to present GnuCash
10:17:14 <Mechtilde> I'm there too
10:17:51 <Mechtilde> I discussed it wih gjanssens at FOSDEM in brussels
10:17:58 <Mechtilde> as an idea
10:20:42 <fell> Please submit your talks, devroom and project booth requests until May 23rd.
10:22:33 <fell> https://www.froscon.de/en/cfp/
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13:11:46 <gjanssens> Mechtilde: I just checked and unfortunately I won't be available during froscon :(
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15:01:29 <fell_laptop> gjanssens: a few weeks ago you told me a smart (cmake) sequence to create an eclipse project directory. Unfortunately I didn't write it down.
15:01:37 <tomtom2> I would like to setup GneCash to analyze past financial data. A whole year's worth. Is that possible?
15:02:03 <fell_laptop> tomtom2: Sure.
15:02:31 <fell_laptop> Do you have records in some other app?
15:03:02 <tomtom2> How do I do it? Just enter past dates?
15:03:28 <fell_laptop> Why not?
15:03:35 <tomtom2> Yes I have years worth of spreadsheet data.
15:04:25 <fell_laptop> Once there was a tool calc2qif. I am not shure it is still functional.
15:05:01 <fell_laptop> Because QIF is easier to import than CSV.
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15:06:04 <tomtom2> As of right now I don't have GnueCash set up. but I thought that if it works on past data maybe I will start using it.
15:07:48 <fell_laptop> Because of learning bayes algorithm you import at first small chunks and assign the right accounts to train it.
15:08:31 <tomtom2> My impression of the software was that when you set it up it works only from the time and date onward and you cannot add data prior to that date.
15:10:25 <fell_laptop> Most users might start with the current year, but it is possible to enter older data, e.g. a commodity you bought some time ago.
15:11:58 <fell_laptop> You might adjust the preferences, filters and report options to display the year which you are entering
15:14:09 <tomtom2> OK. I guess I'll just go ahead and try setting up as if it were 2010. Let's see what happens. Thanks for the suggestions.
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15:38:17 <gjanssens> fell_laptop: https://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2018/01/26.html#T14:00:38
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16:36:07 <chamillo> Hi. I recently started using gnucash. I like the simplicity of it, but I'm really struggling to import transactions to it. Has anyone been successful importing transactions to gnucash?
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17:07:34 <fell> First almost successfull cmake run returns: No package 'gwengui-gtk3' found
17:09:15 <fell> chamillo: Yes! ;-)
17:09:26 <chamillo> Great!
17:09:47 <chamillo> Is there a template you can share?
17:10:17 <fell> Which file format are you trying?
17:14:01 <fell> chamillo, most financial apps can export QIF files.
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17:18:21 <chamillo> I need to import transactions from a .CSV
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17:20:05 <fell> OK, I would just create an example set of transactions in gnucash and export it to csv.
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17:20:52 <chamillo> I already did that, but when I try to import back to gnucash it fails.
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17:21:27 <fell> Are there any error messages?
17:22:05 <fell> Which OS are you using?
17:22:15 <chamillo> Linuxmint
17:23:33 <chamillo> The error says: There are problems with the import settings! The date format could be wrong or there are not enough columns set...
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17:25:26 <fell> Your locale is en_US.UTF8?
17:25:59 <chamillo> Yes.
17:26:36 <fell> And which Gnucash version are you using?
17:27:04 <chamillo> Version 2.6.12
17:27:30 <fell> That is a few years old ...
17:28:14 <fell> So it might be an already fixed error.
17:29:01 <chamillo> How do I upgrade? I installed from the linuxmint software manager.
17:30:44 <chamillo> If I run:
17:30:47 <chamillo> sudo apt-get install gnucash
17:31:13 <chamillo> Will it give me the most recent package? I understand that I need to purge the old one first.
17:32:23 <Grav> If there was a newer version apt-get upgrade would have installed it already, assuming that you run that periodically.
17:34:22 <chamillo> I have not run: apt-get upgrade, but I will do that now. Thank you.
17:34:35 <Grav> You want to do that all the time
17:34:42 <Grav> That's how you get regular system updates
17:35:38 <Grav> You need to run apt-get update first
17:36:05 <Grav> That will pull down the latest contents from your configured software repositories
17:36:53 <Grav> I suddenly get "No suitable backend was found for mysql://user@127.0.0.1/database" when I try to open my books. This configuration has been working for six years, and I have checked the obvious suspects like ssh tunnel not up and inappropriate local instance of mysql running.
17:37:16 <Grav> Anyone have any suggestions of other things to check for that error?
17:39:01 <Grav> The only relevant thing that I can think of that has changed since the last time I successfully used gnucash is the installation of Oracle mysql packages on my workstation.
17:39:58 <fell> Grav did you change something around libdbi and it's dbd drivers?
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17:40:06 <chamillo> I just updated and upgraded, but I'm still using version 2.6.12
17:40:29 <Grav> chamillo, Debian based releases don't see frequent upgrades
17:41:01 <Grav> They are traditionally frozen at the version in the base release when it shipped, unless there is a security update.
17:41:09 <fell> Eventually they have one at GetDeb?
17:41:24 <chamillo> If someone could provide a .CSV file that was successfully uploaded, I could use it to build my file.
17:42:36 <Grav> fell, re: libdbi, not that I know of, but your answer is uncanny as the page I am reading (on Linux Mint forums coincidentally) had me thinking that I should check my libdbi versions
17:43:14 <Grav> fell, GetDeb has 2.6.17 for Xenial (which I am using)
17:48:46 <Grav> fell, Thanks for the suggestion. It looks like my libdbd-mysql package wound up getting uninstalled when I installed the Oracle community mysql package.
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17:49:09 <Grav> Installing it and restarting gnucash fixed it
17:49:26 <fell> Great!
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18:08:52 <chamillo> I removed the version of gnucash I had using:
18:08:59 <chamillo> sudo apt-get purge gnucash
18:09:06 <chamillo> sudo apt-get autoremove
18:09:16 <chamillo> and reinstalled using:
18:09:22 <chamillo> sudo apt-get update
18:09:29 <chamillo> sudo apt-get install gnucash
18:10:00 <chamillo> I ended up with the same version. 2.16.12
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18:11:02 <fell> Can you add other repositories? (I don't know the Mint/Ubuntu specifics)
18:14:02 <fell> Or you could ask on the gnucash-user mailinng list if and how other mint users get more recent versions.
18:18:38 <fell> BTW, the bug list of csv: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?component=Import%20-%20CSV&list_id=308406&order=changeddate%20DESC%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_id&product=GnuCash&query_based_on=&query_format=advanced
18:19:02 <fell> there a fixed date issues.
18:19:35 <chamillo> I just downloaded the new version from:
18:19:42 <chamillo> http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnucash/
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18:31:56 <fell> @tell gjanssens, Thanks! When I wanted to document it, I found https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=Eclipse&diff=prev&oldid=13313
18:31:56 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
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21:07:37 <chamillo> Can anyone provide a template for a .CSV transaction import into gnucash? It's not that I didn't try to find it on my own. I have looked all over for a sample of a successful import .CSV file, but I have not been able to find such a file.
21:08:22 <chamillo> I think that it would be very helpful to others to create a template file that we could post on the support site.
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