2018-05-03 GnuCash IRC logs
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05:12:55 <chris> I've seen that eguile uses lots of regexes and may trigger locale issues (with accented transactions/account names etc) in win32... i don't use an alternative locale so can't easily test.
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08:26:55 <fell> chris: when I hold [altgr] while typing, I get nice non-ASCII symbols.
08:55:19 <chris> fell: the issue isn't data entry, but running (1) eguile reports in a (2) foreign locale on (3) windows containing (4) extended unicode in trans-desc or acct-names. not routine!
08:57:21 <fell> Yeah, Windows is a real problem. ;-)
08:58:44 <chris> tbh i don't really like the eguile reports and wish they'd go away
09:00:02 <fell> They lowered the threshold of customizing reports for non-Schemers.
09:00:31 <chris> .... which was still too high for anyone to take up the challenge :)
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09:01:27 <fell> I bet, if we remove them, an outcry will go through the community.
09:03:49 <chris> hence the regular reports could be cleaned up completely
09:04:23 <fell> But after the scheme reports are consolidated - use functions instead of copying code - we might consider to move them in an "Unsupported" corner.
09:05:42 <chris> speaking of which - there's dead code called 'book-currency-accounting' by inserted by alex aycinena in 2015, partially removed. any idea what that was about?
09:06:41 <fell> A first step might be an replacement of the different option generators by one unified, which respects the settings from OS, user preference and file properties.
09:08:47 <fell> Alex is the US tax maintainer. Perhaps you ask him CCing -devel.
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09:25:12 <warlord> chris: the benefit of eguile is easier physical manipulation. The idea was to make it easier for a non-schemer to create a report that looks the way they want it to look. It's a good idea in theory. Perhaps in practice it's not all it could be.
09:26:24 <warlord> the standard reports do not make it easy to format the output the way you want (c.f. all the various invoice reports we have, because different people want it to look differently)
09:26:53 <warlord> The idea of a graphical template is not new. Eguile was the easiest way to incorporate that concept into gnucash.
09:31:08 <chris> I know, looking at old code through modern tools reveals so much hack; but now modern scheme is surely up to the task... (*cough* macros *cough*), or a modern and well understood template language. any case not complaining about eguile, but getting it to limp in modern times is annoying
09:41:13 <gjanssens> chris: I still have the mustache concept in the back of my mind as a viable alternative for e-guile, and ideally even for much of the whole report system
09:42:02 <gjanssens> fell: your suggestion to start with the option system is bold :)
09:42:25 <gjanssens> It will be a huge task though which fits somewhere in the c++ rewrite.
09:42:35 <chris> options.scm? O_o
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09:45:13 <gjanssens> chris: in addition to option-util.c/h, business-options.c/h and likely a few other still which are less obvious but also affected
09:48:50 <chris> these will be in your hands... meanwhile I'd be keen to do some scheme. in a couple months will be new job with new challenges!
09:50:08 <gjanssens> chris: understood. What do you propose to work on next ?
09:50:47 * gjanssens is still in maintenance mode for the 3.x releases...
09:54:23 <chris> (1) integrating guile-json would be nice. It's super effective would eliminate most of jqplot-type hacks (2) chartjs already done but depends on guile-json (3) I'll aim to combine (non-eguile) invoices (4) I'd like to remove dead code in .scms eg lots of silly functions in test-extras can use srfi-64 instead (5) convert tests to srfi-64 for consistency
09:56:39 <gjanssens> Nice plan :)
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10:53:13 <fell> Gjanssens, I am wondering, if you would like to comment on the crash screen, which Janine Bos sent on -nl?
10:53:55 <fell> Today it is a month.
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